Toward Ecosophy

So, in the interview linked below, Matthias Desmet points out that totalitarian systems always collapse on their own. They self-destruct. Eventually.
And therefore, we really only have to do two things:
1) Keep an alternate narrative alive, and
2) Survive until the system collapses.

This makes sense to me. But I feel like 1) and 2) are in conflict with each other.

The more conspicuously you promote the alternate narrative, the more likely you are to be targeted for the gulag. And the more you focus on survival, the more important it is to keep your mouth shut and not be noticed.

Does anybody else see this dilemma?

Video is at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLDpZ8daIVM

The particular part I'm referring to kicks in around 1:02:00

Darkwing

A passage from Common Sense, published after Lexington and Concord, but before the Declaration of Independence:

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Though I would carefully avoid giving unnecessary offense, yet I am inclined to believe, that all those who espouse the doctrine of reconciliation may be included within the following descriptions:

Interested men, who are not to be trusted; weak men, who cannot see; prejudiced men, who will not see; and a certain set of moderate men who think better of the European world than it deserves; and this last class, by an ill-judged deliberation, will be the cause of more calamities to this continent than all the other three.

It is the good fortune of many to live distant from the scene of sorrow; the evil is not sufficiently brought to their doors to make them feel the precariousness with which all American property is possessed. But let our imaginations transport us for a few moments to Boston; that seat of wretchedness will teach us wisdom, and instruct us to renounce a power in whom we can have no trust. The inhabitants of that unfortunate city, who but a few months ago were in ease and affluence, have now no other alternative than to stay and starve, or turn out to beg. Endangered by the fire of their friends if they continue within the city, and plundered by the soldiery if they leave it. In their present situation they are prisoners without the hope of redemption, and in a general attack for their relief, they would be exposed to the fury of both armies.

Men of passive tempers look somewhat lightly over the offenses of Britain, and still hoping for the best, are apt to call out, "Come, come, we shall be friends again for all this." But examine the passions and feelings of mankind, bring the doctrine of reconciliation to the touchstone of nature, and then tell me whether you can here-after love, honour, and faithfully serve the power that hath carried fire and sword into your land? If you cannot do all these, then you are only deceiving yourselves, and by your delay bring ruin upon your posterity. Your future connection with Britain, whom you can neither love nor honor, will be forced and unnatural, and being formed only on the plan of present convenience, will in a little time fall into a relapse more wretched than the first. But if you say, you can still pass the violations over, then I ask, Hath your house been burnt? Hath your property been destroyed before your face? Are your wife and children destitute of a bed to lie on, or bread to live on? Have you lost a parent or child by their hands, and yourself the ruined and wretched survivor? If you have not, then you are not a judge of those who have. But if you have, and can still shake hands with the murderers, then you are unworthy the name of husband, father, friend, or lover, and whatever may be your rank or title in life, you have the heart of a coward, and the spirit of a sycophant.

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I frequently find myself wondering what happens after all of this. Whether the virus was lab made or natural, whether it was released willfully to cause the current crisis, or accidentally, this is all prologue, and matters not (much). What we have seen with our own eyes, and know for sure, is that those in charge have made every single decision incorrectly and to the detriment of the people's health and of their liberty. Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action. We are so far past the third time I've lost count. Lockdowns were unnecessary and destroyed small business and civic society, and are working hard on what's left of education. Vaccine mandates look set to plunge a knife into the heart and finish the job. Less metaphorically, vaccines themselves appear to be destroying quite a few hearts and bodies, and this is a known fact. They may cover it up publicly, but they know privately, and they insist on third and fourth (and fifth and sixth?) jabs anyway. At times I feel like I am watching a mix of global genocide and totalitarian classics like 1984, Fahrenheit 451, or Brave New World come to life, and the crowd does not seem to notice or care. As this continues though, I feel certain that things will change; people will notice and care in the end. Protests are beginning. And then what?

Having seen all of this, having lived through it, the pure malice of it, how are we to move forward as though it didn't happen? How do we return to vote and debate and continue in civic engagement as though we didn't see the malice with our own eyes? How 'shall we be friends again for all this' and how do we 'shake hands with the murderers' when the terror has subsided? It feels to me as though a global fundamental break is coming, it's looming on the horizon, and there is no way around it.

Murmuration

''Tis week five, and everything is going well.

One webpage that I've been following is The Economist's Excess Deaths Tracker page, and the interesting thing I've noticed is that, outside certain nations (New Zealand and Luxembourg come to mind), the excess deaths are usually more than the deaths from COVID. There's also a concerning increase throughout the United States of excess deaths without any corresponding increase of the disease.

The url: https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker

Well this new post appeared just as I returned from answering the door to yet another creepy "I'm from the government and I'm here to push pharmaceuticals on you" visitor.

I had posted a few weeks back about the woman who showed up at my door wearing a mask, vest, and ID around her neck, who said she was from the county, asked me if I were so-and-so, and then proceeded to offer me "information" on hurricane relief funds and covid vaccine boosters and chat me up, before slyly asking me if I'd had my covid vaccine. That time I did make the mistake of confirming my identity before I realized what was up, but responded to her question about my medical history by informing her it was none of her business.

This interaction was even briefer. A man garbed in the same mask, vest, ID-around-neck manner rang my bell, and when I answered said he was "from the county" and was distributing "information" on covid boosters and flu shots. I said we had all the information, thanks, grabbed the recently-delivered mail out of the box, and went to shut the door. He asked if I were so-and-so. I informed him that unless he had a warrant, I didn't have to confirm my identity. He told me to have a nice day, and that was it.

So. Here we are.

Like I said last time, I live in a small blue city in blue county in blue state (NJ), although the "blue" bit in this case does not mean "PMC", at least not locally. The city is a mix of the older Democratic urban base - African American, immigrant, union workers - with some PMC thrown in (but they are not in the majority in the working-class neighborhood where I live). For what it's worth, the first county jab-pusher at my door was a woman who, as best I could see behind the mask, appeared to be of Southeast Asian heritage, and today's visitor was an African American man.

I don't know if this is part of some "vaccine outreach" focused on "vaccine hesitant communities" (I'm white, but the neighborhood as a whole is very mixed), or if the county is tracking down and harassing every single resident who is not properly recorded in some "I obediently do what you tell me to with my own body" database. I suspect it's the latter, because I don't think they are going to every house - they seem to be selective, so I'm guessing it's just the places where the identified "problems" reside. You know, those of us in the wrong category in the government database. And it's not just covid jabs they're pushing now - it's flu shots too.

Both of these people were perfectly polite and backed down when I refused to answer their questions, but I don't like this. I find it downright frightening, in fact. It feels like the polite and superficially "harmless" first step to something much worse.

I would leave NJ in a heartbeat if my husband weren't so determined to stay - he's from here and doesn't want to leave friends and family. So I'm stuck.

So that's today's update from my corner of this ever-expanding insanity.

Looks to me that there is a lot of hate in the ones that are in the Whitehouse moving Brandon's lips through his back pocket, that hate needs an enemy... and it has the state apparatus behind it.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fbi-whistleblower-reveals-biden-doj-activated-counterterrorism-division-against

it seems this ugly dream, cannot make us wake up

Dear John Michael Greer, and all commenters here,

Thank you for doing this, thank you all for being here and sharing your stories and information.

I am in Europe where things seem to be getting extra nutty this week. Parts of Germany are now tightening the noose on the unvaxxed by denying them the chance to use a PCR test for a covid certificate, Holland went into in lockdown, and noises are being made in other countries made about Christmas markets being shut down. It's been a dark day today. This may sound corny but it's the truth: The weekly reappearance of this forum is a ray of sunshine for me, to know that I am not alone and that this, too shall pass. Things are changing where I am in this European hyper-vaxxed-up city-- I know more people now willing to question the narrative, they can see plainly that the vaxxes are NOT doing what they were advertised to do (100% effective, one and done, and safe-- nope, nope & nope) and the public policy responses now look like so much flying zigzag in the fog. Changing slowly, however-- it looks like the winter will be challenging as the covidian craziness continues.

A Fan of Hans Christian Anderson

As someone who has suffered from presumed long-haul Covid issues, and interacted with many others like me, I would like to share some thoughts and experiences around Covid vaccines in this context.

First, I want to say that it's easy for many to submit to binary thinking on any subject. For example, that you can only think two ways: 1. Covid is a serious concern and therefore one should 100% support Covid vaccines, or 2. Covid Vaccines are dangerous and Covid is of no concern.

I think one can have concerns about the effect Covid has had on some people, including on some previously healthy individuals, and also have concerns about the effects of Covid vaccines on some people. Such concerns are not mutually exclusive.

I've spent much time in the past year in an online support group with thousands who dealing with long-haul Covid. The vast majority of us were never hospitalized, and many initially had mild cases. The majority of us are women, often under 50. Many of us were previously very healthy and athletic, including former marathon runners, fitness trainers, etc. (I myself was an avid hiker and runner). There's some evidence to suggest that being too athletic may make one more prone to long-haul issues.

While some people with post-Covid symptoms have signs of organ damage, many of us test normal on cardiovascular and pulmonary function tests and our organs seem fine. It's theorized that the damage may be on the cellular level, which is not reflected on typical macro-level tests.

Many of us have had frustrating experiences with the medical community: Doctors' denial of the patient experience, attributing issues solely to psycho-emotional causes, doctors telling you there's nothing wrong with you when the limited tests they do turn up fine... Lack of curiosity in trying to investigate medically complex issues. On the resources & tips channel, someone once posted a tip, perhaps simplistic: "Avoid doctors." That comment generated tons of positive replies. In reality, there have been doctors and other healers that have been helpful to us, but it is a struggle to find them. Many of us, out of desperation, have explored various alternative healing modalities for the first time in our life and found them helpful: acupuncture, herbalism, certain dietary regimens, cell salts (well, at least I have recently), etc. but mainstream doctors we've seen were not the ones who pointed us in that direction. Almost everyone in the group has tried something not FDA-approved, even if it's a nutritional supplement.

Covid long-haulers' experiences and opinions of Covid vaccines are all over the map. Some wholeheartedly support them, some have more nuanced opinions, some have reservations, some have refrained from getting them. There is a minority of people with Long Covid who vastly improve soon after the COVID Vaccine (I suspect it's those who have some low-level viral persistence causing their issues). In the spring there were various media articles about this phenomenon. It bugged me when people kept forwarding me these links, not because I didn't think the stories were true, but I felt they only reflected a small portion of us. There were also stories of Covid vaccines making people's Long Covid symptoms worse, and no media coverage of them.

I'm increasingly seeing evidence, first anecdotal and later in some articles, that those who previously had Covid are more likely to have adverse reactions to the vaccine. Almost every post to the vaccine channel describes a strong reaction to the vaccine for the first 48 hours; I've rarely seen a post of someone who didn't have any sort of reaction. Some expect a short rough time in the long run and are fine with it, especially in the minority of cases where it seems to help in the long run. But some have adverse reactions that continue much longer...there are a few people who were sick for weeks after getting a shot, a couple who were hospitalized multiple times for extreme reactions. Some people had their Long-haul symptoms worsen for months after the shots and have regretted their decision. Some have had new problems or disabilities they are now dealing with.

At the library where I work, a patron told me that she previously had Covid. She get two shots of one of the mRNA vaccines, and it took her two and half months to recover. There is no way she is getting the booster.

A new survey has been out concerning how long-haulers feel two-plus weeks after getting the vaccine (excluding any initial rough symptoms). The majority feel the same, but there are actually more people with Long Covid who feel worse afterwards than those whose symptoms improve. There needs to be more research into this but I think this adds more complexity to earlier media narratives that Covid vaccines were a cure for Long Covid.

There is also a recent study out indicating that the incidence of Long Covid is no less in breakthrough infections than in those who are not vaxxed.

I want to share the examples below of a couple people who suffered much from Long Covid, and also suffered when they got their Covid vaccines... to further make my point that it's possible to be concerned both about the effects of Covid and of the vaccines -- sometimes in the very same people. Of course, these are only two stories among a complex variety of stories out there.

1. This article about a British woman has particularly captured my attention. She recovered from Covid and then probably jumped back from exercise too soon and relapsed into severe Long Covid health issues months later, and became bed bound and seriously disabled. She was contemplating suicide. She had various blood tests and doctors told her they were all fine and they didn't know how to help her. But when she later demanded a closer look, especially for ferritin (iron storage) and others they were around the low border of normal. Out of desperation, she agreed to try iron and B12 injections and she improved 85% in 12 days. She went from being bed bound to riding a bike! What was within normal laboratory range was not normal for her. Although my issues never became as severe as hers, I can relate to how doctors were not being helpful and not looking deeper into functional imbalances that may be there. A year after my illness, my ferritin levels were tested and were abnormally low and I'm now taking iron, among with some other supplements that my new doctor thinks would be helpful . But none of my initial doctors went into depth to look at these things, just telling me all my tests were normal and they couldn't find what was wrong with me.

https://www.cambridgeindependent.co.uk/news/long-covid-patient-in-cambridge-tells-how-simple-treatment-t-9203620/

What I later learned about this woman from looking on her blog is that she was later hospitalized for several days for a reaction (pulmonary embolism) to the Astrazeneca vaccine. Luckily, she seems to be doing much better these days from her worst dealing both from Long Covid and the vaccine reaction. But I do wonder if her having previously had Covid was at all connected to her adverse vaccine event.

2. Heidi Ferrer committed suicide 13 months after experiencing Long Covid. What is not mentioned in various articles though but was relayed by her husband in the one below, was that she committed suicide weeks after getting her Moderna vaccine. Not only did the Moderna vaccine not help her, it erased all the progress she had made in the 13 months, and made her suffer more in the most terrible ways: https://toofab.com/2021/06/24/husband-of-late-dawsons-creek-writer-warns-tsunami-of-long-haul-covid-suicides-coming/

"Heidi documented her battle in her blog; in January she even optimistically posted that she felt she was slowly but surely getting better.
"She was improving," Guthe said, which led to her decision to get the Moderna vaccine on March 8 -- a decision he believes was a fatal one.
"A lot of long-haulers felt [it] could improve their symptoms. In her case it had just the opposite effect."
He stressed that he was 100 percent pro-vaccine -- both he and their son are vaccinated.
"But in her case it set her back to where she was last July, and also led to the neurological tremors that were very scary, almost like Parkinsonian tremors that kept her up late at night, and made sleeping impossible, " he said...

The article in the New Yorker magazine never mentioned this fact. Her husband wrote a letter to the New Yorker magazine calling out their omission of the fact of her having gotten the Moderna vaccine soon before her committing suicide:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/11/08/letters-from-the-november-8-2021-issue

I think our society is focused solely on technological fixes to issues like Covid to the exclusion of all other approaches (yes, treating Covid as a problem with only one solution, instead of predicament with a vast diversity of "right" ways to deal with it, and of course, various wrong ways too). To be concerned about Covid vaccines does not mean one lacks concern about the effects of Covid for some people. I worry that the "cure" -- especially when not used simply as one of many tools (and with caveats and honesty about risk vs. benefits, known and unknown) but as THE only "cure" and then with widespread mandates with no room for individual circumstances -- is adding more misery.

-beneaththesurface

Feature creep, coming to a VaxPass near you!

https://www.mintpressnews.com/africa-trust-stamp-covid-19-vaccine-record-payment-system/269346/

That didn’t take very long.

I am referring of course to JMG's hypothesis and thinking about step 11.
It does look like some super foxed countries and regions don't bother with mandates which suggest that the only reason for the totalitarianism is to get everybody foxed.

But there are exceptions - Gibraltar, Israel, Germany etc. They are almost fully foxed and yet they started new lockdowns.

So, what will it be?

When are they going to declare victory and move on?

Alternately, it is possible that they are just pushing to see how far they can go. If people accept the 7th jab and forever lockdowns, why not do it?

On a related note, I hope that JMG's hypothesis is correct and 90% of Europe's population just disappears before they have time to recreate the horrors of the holocaust (see Austria and Germany today).

Something a bit brighter from NSW, Australia. The police minister has publicly encouraged the public to push back against extension of pandemic laws and the Premier has delayed a decision about the proposed extension of laws allowing mask mandates etc.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/police-minister-very-appropriate-to-push-the-envelope-against-government-overreach-as-nsw-set-to-extend-emergency-powers/news-story/0b9c490270c40a2b34f33dfc042d66c9%3Famp&ved=2ahUKEwjP29ungJ70AhVRWysKHcTxCA8QFnoECBsQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3w3Vno3L-GirmqwwZjiLv-&cf=1

I must admit, last week on this forum when I noticed some commenters speculating about the possibility that a person’s DNA could be obtained (or would be used by a company once obtained) from a nose-swab Covid test, I thought it was far fetched.

Low and behold, I see this today:

Leading COVID Test Firm Planning to Sell Swabs Containing Customer’s DNA

https://timcast.com/news/leading-covid-test-firm-is-planning-to-sell-swabs-containing-customers-dna/