Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 192
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ecosophia
We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.
5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.
Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
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Date: 2025-04-08 03:37 pm (UTC)https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-10-14/covid-intelligence-iq-symptoms-booster-vaccine-health
"Don’t be stupid: Skipping your COVID booster could reduce your IQ"
and the claim is even backed by "studies" from england and norway !!!
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Date: 2025-04-08 03:40 pm (UTC)Definition of Genocide
Date: 2025-04-08 05:57 pm (UTC)[Merriam Webster Dictionary]
to the following:
[Cambridge Dictionary]
I have always understood it to mean the complete lethal elimination of a targeted group. When did it become such a vague definition that it can be partial or not even involve death at all?
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Date: 2025-04-08 04:06 pm (UTC)For any who missed it, Idaho passed a law that will make officialdom overreach much more difficult in the event of another “medical emergency.”
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Date: 2025-04-08 04:54 pm (UTC)https://legislature.idaho.gov/sessioninfo/2025/legislation/S1211/
May it be so....
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Date: 2025-04-08 04:40 pm (UTC)https://c19files.org/
Designed to host FOIAs, legislation, peer reviewed papers, lawsuits, etc. I'm unclear how far along the project is from the website, it's searchable but not indexed. So, I don't know how much material they currently have. But if you're interested in contributing to this project, they are looking for volunteers.
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Date: 2025-04-08 04:57 pm (UTC)Thank you, dear JMG, and dear forumistas.
This week, an important moment for me professionally; I opted to move forward with a long-delayed project. I had been extremely reluctant to interact with my colleagues after their Jab Crow circa 2021-2022. There are still many colleagues whom I prefer to avoid, and I don't think that is going to change. However, like a bear after winter, I'm coming out my cave, as it were. I've been celebrating the recent medical freedom legislation in Idaho. And taking a lot of sunshine.
Cetiosaurus
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Date: 2025-04-08 10:48 pm (UTC)W.R.
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Date: 2025-04-08 06:09 pm (UTC)https://www.ctvnews.ca/windsor/article/covid-19-rules-barring-protests-in-2021-were-unconstitutional-ontarios-top-court/
ive seen some ppl say that ctv picked that pic to make him look bad, having a smoke.
lol
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Date: 2025-04-08 11:11 pm (UTC)Or more specifically, Canada does not have US style "bill of rights" in its so-called constitution. Canadian bill of rights of 1960 was just a federal statute. The "Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms" marketed as US style bill of rights did not get approved by Quebec. Moreover, the "notwithstanding clause" means governments can suspend those "rights" whenever WEF tells them to do so.
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Date: 2025-04-08 06:12 pm (UTC)https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/04/08/exclusive-senior-cia-official-who-facilitated-bidens-military-covid-19-vaccine-mandate-fired/
quite a few hold-overs are still there..
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Date: 2025-04-08 08:39 pm (UTC)Do you have a plan for if the AI powered spam makes these kinds of open forums unmanageable?
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From:SARS-COV-2 origins
Date: 2025-04-08 06:36 pm (UTC)Several clues of SARS-COV-2 point to an artificial origin:
1) SARS-CoV-2 arose in Wuhan, the location of a virus research institute.
2) The DEFUSE grant
*SARS-COV-2 has chimaeric structure, as described in DEFUSE
*SARS-COV-2 has Furin Cleavage Site(which no other known coronavirus has), as described in DEFUSE
*SARS-COV-2 has DC-SIGN transmission, as described in DEFUSE
*SARS-COV-2 has interferon dysregulation, as described in DEFUSE
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21066966-defuse-proposal
Project DEFUSE: Defusing the Threat of Bat-borne Coronaviruses
Peter Daszak Ecohealth Alliance
EcoHealth and Daszak have received money from USAID, but lets put that aside for the moment.
3) SARS-CoV-2 has a Furin Cleavage Site in its Spike protein
* The exact FCS of SARS-CoV-2 is not found in any other coronavirus and in fact it contains specific RNA sequences - CGG CGG - that are almost nonexistent in bats but are optimized for humans. Not only are FCS’s nonexistent in other SARS coronaviruses, but this specific FCS is particularly anomalous in its optimization for humans.
* The SARS-CoV-2 FCS has not one but two CGG codons appropriate for humans and it mimics a particular protein (ENaC) found in humans. (see https://elifesciences.org/articles/58603)
4) SARS-CoV-2 has the restriction map of an infectious clone: The BsaI/BsmBI Restriction Map
*The DEFUSE grant proposed to make chimeric coronaviruses with furin cleavage sites in their Spike protein. The easiest way to insert a Furin cleavage site and make chimeric coronaviruses would involve assembling a DNA clone. There is one extremely common way to assemble a DNA clone for a coronavirus, a method that was specifically cited in DEFUSE and other grants from this group of collaborators proposing to make chimeric coronaviruses in Wuhan.
*The specific method of assembly was published by none other than one of the collaborators on the DEFUSE grant in his seminal paper: “Efficient Reverse Genetic Systems for Rapid Genetic Manipulation of Emergent and Preemergent Infectious Coronaviruses”.
5) The CTCCTCGGCGGGCA sequence
The SARS-COV-2 Furin Cleavage Site contains a 19 nucleotides sequence patented by Moderna. The final codon completed inserted in the sequence CTCCTCGGCGGGCA, patented by Moderna, does not exist in natural viruses and neither does the CGG-coded Furin Cleavage Site CCTCGGCGGGCACGT. Its possible that the virus was made from the 19 nucleotide Moderna specific chimeric (CGG for AGA) FCS, which does not occur anywhere in nature as early as 2013.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US9587003B2/en
Bancel S, Chakraborty T, De Fougerolles A, Elbashir SM, John M, Roy A, et al. Modified Polynucleotides for the Production of Oncology-Related Proteins and Peptides. Cambridge, MA: United States Patent. (2016).
Modified polynucleotides for the production of oncology-related proteins and peptides
The invention relates to compositions and methods for the preparation, manufacture and therapeutic use of oncology-related polynucleotides, oncology-related primary transcripts and oncology-related mRNA molecules.
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Date: 2025-04-09 07:11 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2025-04-08 08:27 pm (UTC)U.S. Navy Invites Former Sailors to Apply for Reentry under Executive Order 14184
https://www.navy.mil/Press-Office/News-Stories/Article/4148912/us-navy-invites-former-sailors-to-apply-for-reentry-under-executive-order-14184/
some good news, though it says there will be no
back pay
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Date: 2025-04-08 10:44 pm (UTC)Cugel
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Date: 2025-04-08 09:43 pm (UTC)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkpRKL4gNPA
I don't have much more than that.
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Date: 2025-04-08 11:39 pm (UTC)https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/country-star-john-rich-explains-how-he-got-trump-to-stop-bragging-about-operation-warp-speed/
that is very interesting..
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From:Worsening symptoms and more
Date: 2025-04-09 11:32 am (UTC)I feel like there's some element of "Trump curse" to this as well. The latter friend has TDS to the point of making his home WiFi password "F___Trump" and many of the people I've known as the most pro-fox left-wing virtue signalers are meeting with one disaster after another. People who were doing great in their lives and careers a few years ago are now complete wrecks. Is anyone else seeing this?
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Date: 2025-04-09 05:39 pm (UTC)I also saw a man in the food court behaving normally but making weird grimaces— that looked to me like a tic. Again, I'd guess that may be neurological damage from the jabs.
The pharmacy is offering all kinds of jabs on a "walk in" basis.
This morning I only saw one person wearing a mask. He looked on the young side of middle-aged and he was on crutches.
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Date: 2025-04-09 12:41 pm (UTC)Experts say they may be fewer suspensions if Ontario had electronic immunization registry
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-schools-suspend-students-vaccines-1.7505150
'..experts say..'
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Date: 2025-04-09 12:50 pm (UTC)https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/04/bombshell-report-sec-defense-confirms-gateway-pundit-was/
things coming out..
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Date: 2025-04-09 09:29 pm (UTC)Way back before(?) America noticed (2019) that something was going on, Ilargi over at The Automatic Earth was chronicling that something was going on in China. At the time i thought it was strange that he was the only one i was reading at the time who was talking about it. I was told by several people at the time that it was a nothing burger.
I even remember Mrs Pelosi say that we should all go down to chinatiown (sans masks, she was very specific) and protest the xenophobe resident of the white house. As time went on i saw it begin to pick up steam until we got the lock-downs, masks, arbitrary distancing and warp speed.
here we are five years later and they finally admit that something was going on in 2019.
Why, why does it take so long for all of this to "come out" and is it now important?
~Wolf :-)
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Date: 2025-04-09 01:25 pm (UTC)https://x.com/butterflyspeir/status/1909957516814934285
24-5 flu vaccine study
Date: 2025-04-09 03:23 pm (UTC)This is a preprint of a study on this last season's flu vaccines, finding: "the risk of influenza was significantly higher for the vaccinated compared to the unvaccinated state (HR, 1.27; 95% C.I., 1.07 – 1.51; P = 0.007), yielding a calculated vaccine effectiveness of −26.9% (95% C.I., −55.0 to −6.6%)."
If you have family who are still big on The Science, you may find this study useful to explain why they got flu this winter, and your general suspicion and refusal to take vaccines looks less . . . UnScientific . . . with a nice shiney new study.
I've already sent it to my aged and ill The Science trusting relative, who will no doubt forget it by next flu season, but this should end the fussing at me for this one.
BoysMom
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Date: 2025-04-09 06:31 pm (UTC)Had they found a 26% relative benefit, it would have been meaningless because of unmeasured confounders. So, to be unbiased, I must say that a relative detriment also is unreliable due to potential confounding by indication. These are Cleveland Clinic employees and 82% got the flu shot. A small minority (18%) may be assumed to be different somehow. Maybe they work in less-public roles and such people did not get the shot because they correctly estimated that they were at much less risk of exposure than their colleagues, or because unvaxxed patient-care staff would be punished by being made to mask all winter and they wouldn't. You can't correct for these things.
The upshot: ONLY randomized placebo-controlled trials of preventive interventions can provide evidence of benefit.
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Date: 2025-04-09 08:20 pm (UTC)The old lodge rule is good: criticize ideas, not people. Also, remember that the word "sarcasm" comes from a Greek word meaning "tearing flesh," and in a polite conversation it's about as appropriate as that. Thank you!
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From:Covid/Medical World
Date: 2025-04-09 10:12 pm (UTC)Trump is proposing to make this dire situation worse by sanctioning pharmaceuticals. As we wrote in 2018 in China Rx: How the US Depends on China for Its Drugs:
The big message of [Rosemary] Gibon’s and [Janardan] Singh’s book is that the US relies on China for the production of active ingredients in drugs and in many cases, of the medications themselves, to the degree that we would have a public health crisis if supplies were interrupted. As Gibson said on C-SPAN:
"Many people that we spoke to, both former government officials and some in industry said that if China shut the door on exports, within months, pharmacy shelves in the United States to be empty, and hospitals would cease to function."
And don’t assume generics king India would step into the breach. India gets many of the active ingredients for its pharmaceuticals from China. Gibson forecasts that China will overtake India in generics manufacture within a decade.
As Gibson explains, the US no longer makes its own penicillin, in part because China dumped penicillin in 2004, driving the last US plant out of business.
The medications where the US relies on China include heparin, a blood thinner that among other things is used for IV drips. No heparin, no IV treatments. Due to the difficulty in tracing the source of drug company ingredients, the authors could make only case by case investigations, but they found China production to be critical for treatments for Alzheimer’s HIV, depression, schizophrenia, cancer, epilepsy, and high blood pressure.
Now, i know most of us here at least occasionally take Something, Aspirin Ibuprofen, ivermectin etc etc so i thought this might be something useful. Maybe stock up? I don't know.
there is more at: https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/04/trumps-additional-50-tariff-against-china-and-chinas-tit-for-tat-retaliation-trump-own-goals-himself-into-where-china-would-want-him.html
~Wolf
Current state of medical studies
Date: 2025-04-10 01:55 am (UTC)I found the following transcript quite relevant, especially given last week's thread where someone kept asking for more medical studies to show how bad the shots are. I mentioned that the ethicalskeptic has put in time and effort to piece together data, he said he knew about and wants even more, so give him the links etc. I didn't get angry or offended, as it was a Campbell situation - they are still in the throes of denial, it is what it is. He said he knew the medical system/ research function was compromised, and he's asking for more official studies to show how bad the shots are? Researchers have snucked in useful tidbits wherever they could, in order to get past the official censors, and we've pieced together many dots. Whether one wants to see the picture, it really is up to them.
https://x.com/newstart_2024/status/1908949418822300117
Bret Weinstein: "They are hiding everything. And what I mean by that is that they are sabotaging all of the mechanisms that we would normally use to figure out what's true. And that sounds like a wild exaggeration, but it isn't. The fact is it's not even just a an attack on the university system."
"It's an attack on every single university. The research done there is low quality, not repeatable. The lessons taught there are actually, in large measure, not even true anymore. Things that are verifiably false are taught as if they are true. Our regulatory agencies work exactly in reverse."
"They protect regulators from from citizens, not the other way around. So something is attacking all of the mechanisms in civilization that are supposed to seek the truth and act upon it, and that's not a coincidence."
"Our, truth seeking apparatus has been under such intense attack. We don't know what's true. Some things that are very easy to establish. It's not a difficult scientific question to figure out whether or not mRNA vaccines cause turbocancers."
"That's a very straightforward scientific problem, but we are nonetheless left to grapple with anecdote because to the extent that there are studies, they're likely to be set up to fail, and the rest is anecdote."
"So we are left to make sense of the world without the most obvious basic tools, without anything that flows to us from the enlightenment, and that is indeed a very dangerous predicament."
Re: Current state of medical studies
Date: 2025-04-10 03:57 am (UTC)It indeed shouldn't be difficult, scientifically, to determine whether mRNA vaxxes could cause fast-growing or aggressive cancers. The obvious starting point would be animal studies. As you say, Pfizer and Moderna's animal studies can't be trusted to be done right or reported accurately. But, not all nations profited from mRNA shots or widely adopted them. One of those that didn't, and that is now getting screwed over by the U.S., might just think about putting some funding into this. Almost any results, publicly released, could increase anger or divisiveness in the U.S., which is bad for us of course, but good for them.
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Date: 2025-04-10 06:59 am (UTC)Here's my article today on the subject as well as some suggestions about how to push back these forces while maintaining as safe a distance as possible.
https://naakua.substack.com/p/the-demons-told-me-to-kill-you
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Date: 2025-04-10 04:53 pm (UTC)I expect the Tesla craziness put my True Blue Covidian brother-in-law in quite a bind: He drives a Tesla in an epicenter of woke near Seattle.
Discussing any of this with my family is a no-go. It’s not about making sense. Just emotions. The Golden Corral all you can eat buffet for noxious spirits.
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