Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 192
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ecosophia
We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.
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6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.
Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.
With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
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Date: 2025-04-08 03:37 pm (UTC)https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-10-14/covid-intelligence-iq-symptoms-booster-vaccine-health
"Don’t be stupid: Skipping your COVID booster could reduce your IQ"
and the claim is even backed by "studies" from england and norway !!!
(no subject)
Date: 2025-04-08 07:29 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2025-04-08 11:10 pm (UTC)My doctor told me recently that the flu shot may prevent Alzheimer’s.
I smiled and nodded. Said I’d think about it. Did not say WHAT I would think about it. You can probably guess, though…
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Date: 2025-04-10 02:01 pm (UTC)You know what? Doctors are quacks - don't trust them.
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Date: 2025-04-13 01:36 pm (UTC)Some people took the vaxx in good faith, not knowing any better. Now enough data is available if they choose to look. For those who were injured, or for their family, are they willing to admit they made a mistake and have to deal with its consequences? There's your test.
(no subject)
Date: 2025-04-09 02:36 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2025-04-08 03:40 pm (UTC)Definition of Genocide
Date: 2025-04-08 05:57 pm (UTC)[Merriam Webster Dictionary]
to the following:
[Cambridge Dictionary]
I have always understood it to mean the complete lethal elimination of a targeted group. When did it become such a vague definition that it can be partial or not even involve death at all?
Caldathras
Re: Definition of Genocide
Date: 2025-04-08 10:54 pm (UTC)Re: Definition of Genocide
Date: 2025-04-09 03:01 am (UTC)Re: Definition of Genocide
Date: 2025-04-09 03:00 am (UTC)As for "not involving death", think cultural genocide, as in Indian boarding schools, or the practice in China of sending Uighur men to slave labor camps and sending male Han agents to live in their houses and sleep in their beds. If the Uighur women aren't killed, but are forced to bear babies who aren't Uighur and aren't allowed to learn Uighur culture, in a couple of generations the Uighurs could effectively be gone without any mass graves.
Re: Definition of Genocide
Date: 2025-04-09 05:27 pm (UTC)But that's all in how you look at it. True, Hitler failed to murder them all but he is guilty of the crime of trying to commit genocide. Whereas, Cortés and his fellow conquistadors succeeded in wiping out the Aztec people and much of their culture (although, a South American friend of mine tells me that there are still individuals with Aztec blood alive today, so that attempt at genocide failed too). Complete genocide would be very difficult to accomplish. In my mind, the crime is in the intent and the attempt, not just in the success.
The rest of your post is very thought-provoking. Thank you for that.
Caldathras
Re: Definition of Genocide
Date: 2025-04-09 08:27 pm (UTC)Re: Definition of Genocide
Date: 2025-04-09 10:11 pm (UTC)¡Chicahua! (That means, strength, btw). We are not going anywhere, anytime soon.
Here are a couple pics of the inside of the Anahucalli I took last week, a modern Nahua temple created by Diego Rivera dedicated to the four elements, with Our Lady Tonantzin of the Serpent Skirt towering in the ceiling.
Re: Definition of Genocide
Date: 2025-04-10 03:29 am (UTC)Valuable lesson learned here. I should have known better than to rely on just one source. Once again, my apologies.
Caldathras
Re: Definition of Genocide
Date: 2025-04-10 07:29 am (UTC)Oh, none was taken whatsoever! I do not get offended at all by people not knowing something they haven't encountered, much less from the far lands down south. That only happens in bad schooling and to bruised egos. I just like to take any opportunity to talk a lot :-). Even many mexicans are unaware the Great Spirit is pretty much alive.
All is good and take care!
Re: Definition of Genocide
Date: 2025-04-12 02:49 am (UTC)— Christophe
Re: Definition of Genocide
Date: 2025-04-10 12:31 am (UTC)Caldathras
Re: Definition of Genocide
Date: 2025-04-10 03:46 am (UTC)Re: Definition of Genocide
Date: 2025-04-10 03:42 pm (UTC)Caldathras
Re: Definition of Genocide
Date: 2025-04-10 03:09 pm (UTC)What I personally appreciated learning from that section of his Debt book (which I had not learned from any other historical source I had encountered up to that time) was the extent to which the actions of bankers enforcing claims upon their debtors *in Europe* radiated out to the effects - some of them quite ruinous - experienced by people as far away from Europe as Mexico.
Re: Definition of Genocide
Date: 2025-04-11 05:00 pm (UTC)I concur with your second paragraph. I too found it very eye opening.
Caldathras
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Date: 2025-04-08 07:27 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2025-04-08 09:43 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2025-04-09 02:26 am (UTC)In my last post, I was wondering if anyone had any information about this phenomenon because what started out as videos complaining about slow sales after the Chinese New Year in February have morphed into these troubling reports of illness and depopulation.
Is the Chinese Communist Party attempting to hide something sinister or is this just propaganda?
Liam in Toronto
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Date: 2025-04-10 07:55 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2025-04-13 08:03 am (UTC)Yes China has problems. Russia has problems. Name one country which doesn't have problems. The question is scale and degree... the LEI's report has been mentioned here a couple of times about the big drop in China's population - so far it has zero credibility. There's a ton of vex injury stories on the Xiaohongshu app, so people have a sense that health has been greatly impacted, even by the non-mRNA covid shots.
FWIW, the best esoteric prognosticators that I track over the past few years, are mostly in agreement that the dieoff becomes obvious this year in most countries, while continueing to pick up speed in 2026 and even more 2027. At which point governments will have zero credibility. That is one big reason why the drumbeat for war is so loud, especially in Europe.... and US (focusing on different theaters). They really need a big distraction from what is happening, but thankfully most of the forecasters are saying that the war efforts will be for naught. The ongoing war propaganda isn't gaining the traction that they need (thanks to innoculation from the covid bullshale), and without enough public support, they can't even get enough soldiers to sign up, let alone keep a crumbling industrial base to build the weapons.
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Date: 2025-04-09 02:40 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2025-04-10 01:22 am (UTC)Historically, many cancers only announce themselves in the latter stages; by the time you become aware of them the question is "When will you die," not "How can we get rid of it." Lung Cancer was well known for being this type of Cancer, same for other forms of cancer that hit up other organs – and there are forms of Skin Cancer that start at Level 4 even in plain sight.
Not to say your thoughts about what's going on now are wrong (given what was snuck in the shot), but Cancer = Death has a deep history in our culture – deep enough to allow for a fifty-year "War™️" on various forms of Cancer to have existed.
– Donald Hargraves
This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-08 03:45 pm (UTC)Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-08 06:04 pm (UTC)Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-08 08:42 pm (UTC)That said, I am now aware of ivermectin and fenben, and that's what I would suggest looking into, too.
My faith in oncologists faded along with my faith in the medical profession that pushed the covid jabs.
Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-08 06:06 pm (UTC)Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-08 08:43 pm (UTC)Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-09 12:56 pm (UTC)Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-09 02:44 am (UTC)On Sunday, I bumped into my neighbor across the hall. He and his wife have lived mostly at their country house since the onset of COVID. However, I often saw her as she came into the city for shopping etc. I saw her last a few weeks ago, we exchanged pleasantries and she looked fine. He told me that she died about a week or so after I saw her of "turbo cancer" (his words). He told me it literally took a week from the time she felt unwell until her death. He then confessed to me that she blamed everything on the jabs she had had to get for her work. He asked me what I thought of that and I told him.
This all came as a great surprise because his wife had been very critical of me not being vaxxed and especially of me convincing my kid not to be vaxxed. I was quite taken aback by her apparent change of heart, needless to say.
Liam in Toronto
Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-09 10:53 pm (UTC)SDPM
Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-09 10:59 pm (UTC)SDPM
Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-10 06:43 am (UTC)Liam in Toronto
Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-10 03:25 am (UTC)"This all came as a great surprise because his wife had been very critical of me not being vaxxed and especially of me convincing my kid not to be vaxxed. I was quite taken aback by her apparent change of heart, needless to say."
And it is quite possible that your stand on vaxx influenced her. Many people fell for the first round of intense gaslighting but then the repeated boosters (of gaslighting) started to have the opposite effect, especially when they saw the completely unvaxxed not dropping dead.
Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-10 06:55 am (UTC)My neighbor was nice but she had VERY definite opinions - as do I! LOL!! We agreed to disagree and never spoke of it again but I'm sure the shock of her diagnosis (understandably) got her thinking. Her husband told me she was adamant that it was the jabs. She had taken the standard two shots plus the booster - as did he because of his job. I tried to be "diplomatically" honest when he asked me for my opinion. He just nodded his head and then told me that he wished he had never done it. What else can be said?
Liam in Toronto
Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-13 08:38 am (UTC)I actually have a lot of thoughts based on the vex-injured folks I'm interacting with. Simply put, the folks who reached out later, have developed more issues that we need to deal with, and it's much harder to resolve them as the damage has kept accumulating over time. A big problem is that we can't even do proper detox, as most have developed some degree of kidney failure. Last weekm I've discussed some of the kidney failure numbers I managed to dig up for SG via news articles... just before 2020, we had 2 new kidney failures daily. That became 4 by 2022, and 6 by 2024. That is the number for total kidney failure requiring dialysis. Lots more folks are now in various stages of kidney failure with much reduced kidney function. They can't take the normal dose of natto/serra, VIM etc, without quick swelling of their legs and feet (aka sign of kidney unable to clear waste products). So I've asked them to dial back the dosage to really just bare minimum, and it's still helping them, as we can still see slow improvement in their blood pressure and blood sugar numbers, but the progress is much slower and has to be managed more delicately.
Scotlyn (or any others) - would like to have your input.. is there a TCM procedure to help improve liver/kidney function? For the unvexed, we'll normally take milk thistle and it helps the kidney to work better and handle the daily detox load from the shedding. But for the vexed folks who only approached in the last few months, I have a sinking feeling that all the protocols we developed won't work unless it's done in conjunction with those folks doing dialysis, even if they don't have full kidney failure yet. Just a bit too much detox, and there's an incrased chance of them developing some auto-immunity issues, kinda like losing weight too quickly and releasing stored toxins into circulation. Generally speaking, the folks who approached me before the end of last year were still able to progress well with the detox program... for the folks who only came to me this year, most get swollen feet pretty fast, which clued me into the whole kidney issue. A small sidenote - low dose daily VIM seems to have the least kidney impact so far, people generally feel much better but not everyone has managed to secure access to VIM, and I am not putting myself into a position of vulnerability by supplying them in case the system takes more notice.
Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-13 02:57 pm (UTC)Gosh, this is the hardest question to answer in general terms (as opposed to when consulting individually with someone you can see and talk to). So I will throw out some general thoughts, in no particular order, and you will decide if anything speaks to you.
The first point I would raise is the one you have already noticed. In any person with a pathogenic load, the level of the load needs to be assessed, but so ALSO does the strength of the person's UPRIGHT QI. When a person's upright qi is not strong, the pathogenic load does not have to be large to cause damage. And in the cases you are talking about, the pathogenic load IS likely quite large, and has already had time to weaken the upright qi. So, the aim of any treatment has to include efforts to preserve/enhance the patient's upright qi at the same time as trying to reduce their pathogenic load in a way that does not further harm their upright qi. (You are doing already doing the second by making sure the detox effort is done more slowly and gently). So, my biggest suggestion is to look for any way to actively nourish/defend/preserve the person's upright qi. (Many of the common suggestions made here for nourishing the etheric body are applicable, and also anything that is emotionally calming, fear-reducing, and nourishing to the spirit).
Secondly, I'd say that with oedema there are a few things that might be going on there. In western medicine lower limb swelling may relate to heart function as well as to kidney function. But also, do not forget the micro-structures – capillary permeability throughout the vascular and lymph systems may be involved, with or without changes to heart or kidneys. Also consider whether it is possible to buffer changes in the fluid electrolyte balance, as they are affected by whatever is detoxing. I have heard of some people using activated charcoal in order to absorb toxins in their transit between liver and gut, to make sure they continue on out of the body and do not “wash back” into the liver. Apparently timing is critical, but I have not practiced this myself, so it would need to be looked intoin more detail.
In TCM terms lower limb swelling is a function of Spleen as well as of Kidney, and if there is pitting oedema, then you are probably talking about Spleen and/or Kidney Yang deficiency. Try building yang qi (possibly including moxa treatments). The other thing to consider (which I have been working at in my clinic since early in the Covid pandemic) are all of the ways to treat blood stasis (ie- microclotting, and all clotting or bleeding disorders). Fluids and blood and qi must harmonise for the body to perform all of its maintenance functions. In acupuncture we sometimes make use of the three-corner needle to treat blood stasis. I'll let you look that up. Both moxa, and three-corner needle treatments can be effectively applied at the jing-well points under the nail beds of fingers and toes - this is where yin qi and yang qi meet one another and begin to build strength.
Finally, perhaps a local TCM herbalist might suggest herbs that can rescue a person's upright qi, and mobilise their yang qi so that they can more effectively detox their pathogenic loads.
Whatever of use any of this might be to you, please also have my blessing, for all of the work you do.
Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-14 12:23 pm (UTC)I tend to do things on a studied 'intuitive' basis... not guesswork as many things would just feel 'wrong' to me, aiding me in avoiding deadends. Sometimes the inspiration may come after a few hours of readings, sometimes after a few days, plus lots of subconscious work. Then when a promising path appears, fate is kind enough to often provide snippets of info confirming my intuition, or a random person would post on the same subject out of nowhere and I would end up being in touch with the person so suss out what they've done with a certain protocol over time and their experiences. Following that, there would often be testing with immediate family members first, figuring that our genetic profiles would be most similar to each other, and everyone having a slightly different protocol to see what works best. I'm pretty much the initial guinea pig, to make sure stuff is safe first.
Fate has also seen fit to keep me humble and emphathic. When I had my turbo lung cancer towards the end of last year from shedding, I was pretty nonchalent as I knew I had stuff which worked well against it. I took extended breaks from treatment as it would make me more tired than usual as I needed to be up and about for family reasons. That gave the cancer more time to grow and by the time I decided to treat it aggressively, the fallout was significant. Going really high dose vim created a huge pathogenic load that overwhelmed my lymph nodes. Pretty debilitating pain, which forced me to test a combination of strong painkillers and taking a treatment break every 4th day to keep me at a functional level, instead of being bedridden with pain. That served to remind me that even stage 4 cancer patients should not be getting the very high doses being touted by various doctors now treating cancer with VIM. My gut feel is that such patients would still get excellent results at 1/4 of the suggested high dose (2mg/kg) if it's in liquid VIM form, and they might recover faster overall. Anyways, the whole episode served to remind me that most patients would feel very alone and scared as their bodies seem to go haywire, even as they're seeing a highly credentialed doctor. That reinforces the basic principle which I try to drum into the vex-injured folks I'm advising... slow and steady wins the race. Too fast, and you're more likely to trip and injure yourself further.
Anyways... back to the 'upright qi'. Niacin aka Vit B3 (flush version) is one of the key ingredients that I'm using to top up people's energy and also immune system. Quick recap, Vit B1 and B3 are the main energy carriers/enablers in our bodies, but we also need trace amounts of the other B (6/9/12 etc), which can get depleted over time if we mainly focus on taking high doses of B1 and B3. With acupuncture, I've used that to direct 'qi' towards a more specific injury area, thus speeding up the healing of said area tremendously. Taking niacin - is like juicing up the body's energy system in general, and so far it works well for most people in terms of the body knowing which areas need the more urgent repairs done, so the niacin gets directed towards that. We can't see the healing if it's mostly internal, but it's happening.
I've spoken to people who have been on high dose niacin (3000mg) daily for at least 6 months... they were initially in really bad state, and thus all that extra energy has been beneficial for them. A point of clarification - the B vitamins are not energy per se, you still have to get your nutrients and energy from food for the most part, the B complex just enables more efficient and higher throughput usage of that energy.
So I have enough anec-data for 3000mg, and 1 particular vex injured person who has a whole host of issues has been doing that for almost 2 months now and the severity and instances of those symptoms have lessened over time. We're trusting that his body knows best where to direct that 'qi' for healing.
Another point of reference is that when one is pushing that much energy through the body using niacin, if it's not used up or deem necessary by the body, the fasting blood sugar numbers tend to rise after a few days - that's our experience. If it goes up 3 to 4 days in a row and hitting the high range of normal, dropping the niacin level back to 500-1000mg for a day or two resets it to baseline. Aka no long-term damage done as long as we monitor.
In very recent months, my 2 youngest kids who are still in school started to exhibit signs of shedding damage in their own physical ways. Another big clue was that their fasting blood sugar numbers started to drop down towards the low end of normal, numbers which we almost never see with them. So the youngest kid, who was on 1000mg daily has been boosted to 3000mg daily. His blood sugar is now back in his previous normal range after almost 1 month... and when it goes high enough, we'll dial back the dosage accordingly.
The other kid was on 2000-3000mg daily based on the level of anticipated activity for the day, high level athlete. She is now on 4000mg - the highest we have ever used. It took about a couple of weeks before her minor injuries started to heal properly again. I had to think carefully for a couple of days before deciding to go that high for her as most firm literature on high niacin doses have been buried deep. Basically despite them using a number of anti-shedding protocols, the shedding load has become so high that their immune system is now being actively engaged directly on a daily basis, so much so that it was getting drawn down significantly.
For extra reference, both kids have also been taught to do the SOP daily....
Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-14 03:23 pm (UTC)I have introduced 3 or 4 of my patients to the concept of the SOP (with links to the relevant posts here). I never know what people WILL do with information they receive, but I was delighted when one of those people told me they had begun to do the practice everyday... and found it very emotionally steadying. :)
I do think that fear is highly injurious, highly contagious, and easily "shed" by its carriers - it may be the number one thing that we all could use more protection from.
Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-13 03:09 pm (UTC)Of course, for some people the ultimate goal will be to avoid hospitals at all costs - and for those people
- the issue of dialysis will weigh up completely differently.
In both cases, you will do what you feel called to do in support. And, having done what is necessary, forget it (Dao De Jing, Passage No 2)... :)
Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-12 11:00 am (UTC)my dad was diagnosed with blood cancer two years ago. this was after he had 4 mrna jabs (didn’t want them but had to, to be able to gain access to the hospital to receive treatment for a separate non-cancer issue).
they gave him 6 months max to live. i got him on menbendazale and ivermectin. he was getting blood transfusions every week and now he rarely has them.
jez
Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-13 02:27 am (UTC)The indications are that the mode of action is closest to fenben, but not exactly. While I think the worries about neurological issues from long-term usage of fenben is overstated (on purpose), the real issue as other folks have stated - is that fenben does taste like paint.
Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-13 02:27 pm (UTC)Not sure if this info is accurate, but I have seen an online exchange between a layperson and a doctor where the doctor implied that menben was more easily absorbed by the body than fenben. Also on my radar is a paper describing administration of DMSO and fenben, to improve the amount actually reaching the bloodstream.
*Ochre Harebrained Curmudgeon*
New Idaho Law
Date: 2025-04-08 04:06 pm (UTC)For any who missed it, Idaho passed a law that will make officialdom overreach much more difficult in the event of another “medical emergency.”
Re: New Idaho Law
Date: 2025-04-08 04:54 pm (UTC)https://legislature.idaho.gov/sessioninfo/2025/legislation/S1211/
May it be so....
Re: New Idaho Law
Date: 2025-04-08 06:23 pm (UTC)😡
Caldathras
Covid files all in one place
Date: 2025-04-08 04:40 pm (UTC)https://c19files.org/
Designed to host FOIAs, legislation, peer reviewed papers, lawsuits, etc. I'm unclear how far along the project is from the website, it's searchable but not indexed. So, I don't know how much material they currently have. But if you're interested in contributing to this project, they are looking for volunteers.
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Date: 2025-04-08 04:57 pm (UTC)Thank you, dear JMG, and dear forumistas.
This week, an important moment for me professionally; I opted to move forward with a long-delayed project. I had been extremely reluctant to interact with my colleagues after their Jab Crow circa 2021-2022. There are still many colleagues whom I prefer to avoid, and I don't think that is going to change. However, like a bear after winter, I'm coming out my cave, as it were. I've been celebrating the recent medical freedom legislation in Idaho. And taking a lot of sunshine.
Cetiosaurus
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Date: 2025-04-08 10:48 pm (UTC)W.R.
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Date: 2025-04-08 11:17 pm (UTC)It’s always a pleasure to read your weekly message. 🙏
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Date: 2025-04-08 06:09 pm (UTC)https://www.ctvnews.ca/windsor/article/covid-19-rules-barring-protests-in-2021-were-unconstitutional-ontarios-top-court/
ive seen some ppl say that ctv picked that pic to make him look bad, having a smoke.
lol
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Date: 2025-04-08 11:11 pm (UTC)Or more specifically, Canada does not have US style "bill of rights" in its so-called constitution. Canadian bill of rights of 1960 was just a federal statute. The "Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms" marketed as US style bill of rights did not get approved by Quebec. Moreover, the "notwithstanding clause" means governments can suspend those "rights" whenever WEF tells them to do so.
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Date: 2025-04-08 11:15 pm (UTC)" The notwithstanding clause authorizes governments to temporarily override the rights and freedoms in sections 2 and 7 through 15 for up to five years, subject to renewal."
Section 2 -
"2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
(a) freedom of conscience and religion;
(b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
(c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
(d) freedom of association."
(no subject)
Date: 2025-04-09 05:53 pm (UTC)A simple majority vote in any of Canada's 14 jurisdictions may suspend the core rights of the Charter. Similarly, a majority vote in that same jurisdiction can override that previous suspension.
The clause was proposed by Peter Lougheed, premier of Alberta, and reluctantly put in by the federal government.
Finally, Quebec has its own Charter of Human Rights and Freedoms, put in place in 1976. Perhaps, they felt it was superior to the federal one?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_Charter_of_Human_Rights_and_Freedoms
Caldathras
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Date: 2025-04-08 06:12 pm (UTC)https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/04/08/exclusive-senior-cia-official-who-facilitated-bidens-military-covid-19-vaccine-mandate-fired/
quite a few hold-overs are still there..
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Date: 2025-04-08 08:39 pm (UTC)Do you have a plan for if the AI powered spam makes these kinds of open forums unmanageable?
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Date: 2025-04-08 10:53 pm (UTC)Thank you for your commitment to maintaining this space. I really appreciate it.
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Date: 2025-04-09 05:52 am (UTC)On a more upbeat side, knowing your capacity for growing or regrowing orders and lodges. Down the road there might even be a prospect for a lodge system for commenters. 🙂
Just imagine using a grade: “apprentice ordained JMG commenter” 🥸
Best regards,
V
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Date: 2025-04-09 12:23 pm (UTC)I’m really looking forward to Glastonbury. 🙂
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Date: 2025-04-10 07:10 pm (UTC)Ostensibly it is about making arrangements to travel there, and so on, but it also seems to give us scope to discuss the event, and our plans, among ourselves, before we get there...
https://glastonburyarrangements.dreamwidth.org/352.html
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Date: 2025-04-09 07:50 pm (UTC)Still, you gotta do what you gotta do and I will just have to adapt.
Caldathras
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Date: 2025-04-10 11:52 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2025-04-11 03:17 pm (UTC)*Ochre Harebrained Curmudgeon*
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Date: 2025-04-09 02:43 am (UTC)And yet again, we are cleaning up after those that were to interested in seeing if they could do something rather than question if they should.
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Date: 2025-04-09 12:24 pm (UTC)Publishers are starting to wise up, too. A magazine I get has just announced that anybody who submits an AI-written article to them will be banned permanently from submitting anything at all, full stop, end of sentence. As usual, the introduction of a new factor brings countervailing moves from others...
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Date: 2025-04-09 03:04 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2025-04-10 08:11 pm (UTC)And then there are the AI tools to detect plagiarism &/or AI-written papers.
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Date: 2025-04-11 12:46 pm (UTC)Even worse, assuming the claims made in Not with a Bug but with a Sticker are accurate, many of these exploitable glitches are features of most if not all AI systems that are designed to do similar tasks, so once found, they will fool everything that is not specifically trained not to fall for that specific trick. Add to this that I haven't seen any conclusive reason why what YouTube's enegineers called "The Inversion", the moment where AI systems, facing a flood of fake material being designed intentionally to fool them, start to conclude that the human activity is fake, and I've come to think that there's a very real risk that the use of AI tools to detect AI will backfire spectacularly because it will eventually start to determine most human activities are actually AI.
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Date: 2025-04-11 06:09 pm (UTC)(But the cost in money and expended energy is many orders of magnitude higher than anything earlier.)
*Ochre Harebrained Curmudgeon*
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Date: 2025-04-09 08:11 am (UTC)I put that post on my DW blog. I don't believe in a deliberate plot, but I think there is a will coming from the PMC class or the egregore, maybe from the wrong computer and mathematical model or science or mindset at least at the bureaucratic level much like how the Vogon popped the Earth(of the The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy fame). Maybe they have the math at the time but usually mathematical models may reflect bias from the author too, so is chicken and egg.
SARS-COV-2 origins
Date: 2025-04-08 06:36 pm (UTC)Several clues of SARS-COV-2 point to an artificial origin:
1) SARS-CoV-2 arose in Wuhan, the location of a virus research institute.
2) The DEFUSE grant
*SARS-COV-2 has chimaeric structure, as described in DEFUSE
*SARS-COV-2 has Furin Cleavage Site(which no other known coronavirus has), as described in DEFUSE
*SARS-COV-2 has DC-SIGN transmission, as described in DEFUSE
*SARS-COV-2 has interferon dysregulation, as described in DEFUSE
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21066966-defuse-proposal
Project DEFUSE: Defusing the Threat of Bat-borne Coronaviruses
Peter Daszak Ecohealth Alliance
EcoHealth and Daszak have received money from USAID, but lets put that aside for the moment.
3) SARS-CoV-2 has a Furin Cleavage Site in its Spike protein
* The exact FCS of SARS-CoV-2 is not found in any other coronavirus and in fact it contains specific RNA sequences - CGG CGG - that are almost nonexistent in bats but are optimized for humans. Not only are FCS’s nonexistent in other SARS coronaviruses, but this specific FCS is particularly anomalous in its optimization for humans.
* The SARS-CoV-2 FCS has not one but two CGG codons appropriate for humans and it mimics a particular protein (ENaC) found in humans. (see https://elifesciences.org/articles/58603)
4) SARS-CoV-2 has the restriction map of an infectious clone: The BsaI/BsmBI Restriction Map
*The DEFUSE grant proposed to make chimeric coronaviruses with furin cleavage sites in their Spike protein. The easiest way to insert a Furin cleavage site and make chimeric coronaviruses would involve assembling a DNA clone. There is one extremely common way to assemble a DNA clone for a coronavirus, a method that was specifically cited in DEFUSE and other grants from this group of collaborators proposing to make chimeric coronaviruses in Wuhan.
*The specific method of assembly was published by none other than one of the collaborators on the DEFUSE grant in his seminal paper: “Efficient Reverse Genetic Systems for Rapid Genetic Manipulation of Emergent and Preemergent Infectious Coronaviruses”.
5) The CTCCTCGGCGGGCA sequence
The SARS-COV-2 Furin Cleavage Site contains a 19 nucleotides sequence patented by Moderna. The final codon completed inserted in the sequence CTCCTCGGCGGGCA, patented by Moderna, does not exist in natural viruses and neither does the CGG-coded Furin Cleavage Site CCTCGGCGGGCACGT. Its possible that the virus was made from the 19 nucleotide Moderna specific chimeric (CGG for AGA) FCS, which does not occur anywhere in nature as early as 2013.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US9587003B2/en
Bancel S, Chakraborty T, De Fougerolles A, Elbashir SM, John M, Roy A, et al. Modified Polynucleotides for the Production of Oncology-Related Proteins and Peptides. Cambridge, MA: United States Patent. (2016).
Modified polynucleotides for the production of oncology-related proteins and peptides
The invention relates to compositions and methods for the preparation, manufacture and therapeutic use of oncology-related polynucleotides, oncology-related primary transcripts and oncology-related mRNA molecules.
Re: SARS-COV-2 origins
Date: 2025-04-09 07:11 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2025-04-08 08:27 pm (UTC)U.S. Navy Invites Former Sailors to Apply for Reentry under Executive Order 14184
https://www.navy.mil/Press-Office/News-Stories/Article/4148912/us-navy-invites-former-sailors-to-apply-for-reentry-under-executive-order-14184/
some good news, though it says there will be no
back pay
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Date: 2025-04-08 10:44 pm (UTC)Cugel
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Date: 2025-04-09 09:05 pm (UTC)I wonder how many "former" members of the "world's biggest canoe club" will take them up on their offer?
~Wolf :-)
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Date: 2025-04-10 02:15 pm (UTC)I suspect the slogan "Go Fight and Die for Trump" probably is more persuasive than "Go Fight and Die for Joe Biden" or the really hilarious "Go Fight and Die for Kamala Harris" but I'd advise against it. You never do know who they're going to install as the next president and you could end up fighting and dying for a complete clown. Bait, and switch.
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Date: 2025-04-10 09:56 pm (UTC)One Nation Under Blackmail
Date: 2025-04-08 09:43 pm (UTC)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkpRKL4gNPA
I don't have much more than that.
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Date: 2025-04-08 11:39 pm (UTC)https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/country-star-john-rich-explains-how-he-got-trump-to-stop-bragging-about-operation-warp-speed/
that is very interesting..
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Date: 2025-04-09 11:59 am (UTC)Man, to have seen the president’s face when he heard that one… I’m a big supporter, but boy, I’m sure that was priceless. Truth hurts, literally and figuratively.
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Date: 2025-04-11 12:35 pm (UTC)Worsening symptoms and more
Date: 2025-04-09 11:32 am (UTC)I feel like there's some element of "Trump curse" to this as well. The latter friend has TDS to the point of making his home WiFi password "F___Trump" and many of the people I've known as the most pro-fox left-wing virtue signalers are meeting with one disaster after another. People who were doing great in their lives and careers a few years ago are now complete wrecks. Is anyone else seeing this?
Re: Worsening symptoms and more
Date: 2025-04-09 05:39 pm (UTC)I also saw a man in the food court behaving normally but making weird grimaces— that looked to me like a tic. Again, I'd guess that may be neurological damage from the jabs.
The pharmacy is offering all kinds of jabs on a "walk in" basis.
This morning I only saw one person wearing a mask. He looked on the young side of middle-aged and he was on crutches.
Re: Worsening symptoms and more
Date: 2025-04-09 11:12 pm (UTC)Now I do not doubt that weakness in the hands has happened to many people on Planet Earth before the jabs, however, I am going into my 7th decade here and I never heard of that directly before, not once.
Re: Worsening symptoms and more
Date: 2025-04-10 03:25 am (UTC)Re: Worsening symptoms and more
Date: 2025-04-12 03:21 am (UTC)— Christophe
Re: Worsening symptoms and more
Date: 2025-04-10 03:44 am (UTC)I had a loved one to whom that happened. This was before covid. His hands became clumsy and weak, and things started to slip out of his grip. He lost the ability to make music or art. He'd also had heart problems, and within a few years, he died "unexpectedly." It now seems likely that he had a certain uncommon, progressive, fatal, but semi-treatable condition that doctors often miss. I wish that he had been able to find a competent doctor and gotten diagnosed. He had doctors, but none of them put all the pieces together.
Re: Worsening symptoms and more
Date: 2025-04-10 10:25 am (UTC)Re: Worsening symptoms and more
Date: 2025-04-13 03:08 pm (UTC)PS Female here, and in my household I'm the one always called open to open jars. My secret trick is (seriously) chi. When that fails, there's a jar opener thingy in the top kitchen drawer.
Re: Worsening symptoms and more
Date: 2025-04-10 01:32 pm (UTC)Re: Worsening symptoms and more
Date: 2025-04-11 03:01 am (UTC)So the jabbed folks having new hand issues now .. is an early warning sign, which I think many other vexed folks had missed before noticing bigger issues seemingly overnight.
Re: Worsening symptoms and more
Date: 2025-04-10 01:59 pm (UTC)Then that for some strange reason subsided. The Ambulance went back into hiding. I mention all of this (and to get back to your point of observations) to report that The Ambulance seems to have come back from wherever it was hiding to once again be permanently parked in front of the local Wal-Mart.
Most likely due to the worsening health of its shoppers. The real question though, the one that will bring out the propagandists, is why is the health of the populace in decline once again?
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Date: 2025-04-09 12:41 pm (UTC)Experts say they may be fewer suspensions if Ontario had electronic immunization registry
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-schools-suspend-students-vaccines-1.7505150
'..experts say..'
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Date: 2025-04-09 12:50 pm (UTC)https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/04/bombshell-report-sec-defense-confirms-gateway-pundit-was/
things coming out..
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Date: 2025-04-09 09:29 pm (UTC)Way back before(?) America noticed (2019) that something was going on, Ilargi over at The Automatic Earth was chronicling that something was going on in China. At the time i thought it was strange that he was the only one i was reading at the time who was talking about it. I was told by several people at the time that it was a nothing burger.
I even remember Mrs Pelosi say that we should all go down to chinatiown (sans masks, she was very specific) and protest the xenophobe resident of the white house. As time went on i saw it begin to pick up steam until we got the lock-downs, masks, arbitrary distancing and warp speed.
here we are five years later and they finally admit that something was going on in 2019.
Why, why does it take so long for all of this to "come out" and is it now important?
~Wolf :-)
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Date: 2025-04-10 01:22 am (UTC)Ron M
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Date: 2025-04-10 07:26 am (UTC)Stupidly, I did not bookmark the site and I could not find it in late January, 2020 when the COVID saga took off in earnest. However, I told my family that I was sure that this report was genuine and that this was the true story i.e. it did NOT come from a wet-market. Besides, that tale had already been used to explain AIDS.
Liam in Toronto
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Date: 2025-04-12 03:33 am (UTC)Or wait another second, was that what you meant by wet-market? Oops, that's just an association I had never quite put together before. Sorry, my bad!
— Christophe
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Date: 2025-04-10 07:14 pm (UTC)The last time The Military World Games occurred was on October 18-29th, 2019.
In Wuhan.
I'll leave it at that. Not a fan of Conspiracy Theorizing, but…
Donald Hargraves
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Date: 2025-04-10 09:33 pm (UTC)on the other hand, I remember being in a meeting with folks at city hall in, oh... must have been July 2020. During a break time, they were talking about how an unusually nasty cold had gone around the office in fall of 2019. It was bad enough that several people (working-age adults) were hospitalized with pneumonia.
So here, at least, if you were looking for a nasty new respiratory virus, you'd have better luck finding it in 2019 than in 2020.
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Date: 2025-04-09 01:25 pm (UTC)https://x.com/butterflyspeir/status/1909957516814934285
24-5 flu vaccine study
Date: 2025-04-09 03:23 pm (UTC)This is a preprint of a study on this last season's flu vaccines, finding: "the risk of influenza was significantly higher for the vaccinated compared to the unvaccinated state (HR, 1.27; 95% C.I., 1.07 – 1.51; P = 0.007), yielding a calculated vaccine effectiveness of −26.9% (95% C.I., −55.0 to −6.6%)."
If you have family who are still big on The Science, you may find this study useful to explain why they got flu this winter, and your general suspicion and refusal to take vaccines looks less . . . UnScientific . . . with a nice shiney new study.
I've already sent it to my aged and ill The Science trusting relative, who will no doubt forget it by next flu season, but this should end the fussing at me for this one.
BoysMom
Re: 24-5 flu vaccine study
Date: 2025-04-09 06:31 pm (UTC)Had they found a 26% relative benefit, it would have been meaningless because of unmeasured confounders. So, to be unbiased, I must say that a relative detriment also is unreliable due to potential confounding by indication. These are Cleveland Clinic employees and 82% got the flu shot. A small minority (18%) may be assumed to be different somehow. Maybe they work in less-public roles and such people did not get the shot because they correctly estimated that they were at much less risk of exposure than their colleagues, or because unvaxxed patient-care staff would be punished by being made to mask all winter and they wouldn't. You can't correct for these things.
The upshot: ONLY randomized placebo-controlled trials of preventive interventions can provide evidence of benefit.
Re: 24-5 flu vaccine study
Date: 2025-04-10 09:33 am (UTC)If I may, I will push back against this just a little.
Firstly, we do not live in a world in which we can stand back, control all the variables, study the resulting picture, and THEN make decisions. The world in which we actually each make decisions and acton them, does not consist of controllable variables, for a start. It consists of independently motivated and self-moving agents, other than ourselves, who often work at cross-purposes with one another, and with us.
The randomized placebo-controlled trial has specific uses, and is poorly adapted for other uses.
Specific use number one. Marketing. From a sales point of view, these trials are expensive to run, and therefore suited to use for patentable products that can command high prices, and not for inexpensive, easily accessed products already in the public domain. However, giving a special "cachet" to this kind of trial, in and of itself, can bias the purchaser towards what is expensive, patented, exotic, and away from what is cheap, ordinary, well known. The "double blind" aspect of these kinds of trials is useful to keep the marketing focus on the *product* and away from the potential healing contribution that a physician or patient makes.
Specific use number two. Purchasing. If you are a large public universal payers, or a large private insurance company tasked with making large pharmaceutical product purchases, you will want assurance that your purchases will provide more benefit than harm on a statistical basis - ie that more individual people are likely to benefit than are likely to suffer harm. The randomised (and double blind) placebo-controlled trial can suitably provide this kind of *statistical* information.
Specific use number three. Medical practice. Here a physician finds themselves consulting with an *individual* patient, and suddenly the RCT is of very little use. While it may provide a basic framework within matters of safety and risk can be discussed, however it will say nothing at all about whether THIS patient will derive benefit or be harmed by THIS product. The physician, therefore, must draw on other kinds of information - the patient's medical history, the patient's response to treatment, in the context of the physician's clinical experience, allowing comparison between detailed individual case studies, and similar.
In all contexts where individual doctors are recommending, and patients are considering, the use of pharmaceutical products, RCT's prove to be of little benefit, and simple clinical observation and experience, or a patient taking time to weigh up what matters most to them, may do as effective a job. Because all of these contexts are "real world" contexts, where "controlling the variables" is neither possible, nor desirable.
Re: 24-5 flu vaccine study
Date: 2025-04-10 02:58 pm (UTC)Re: 24-5 flu vaccine study
Date: 2025-04-10 09:58 am (UTC)Evidence is all around us, all the time, and useful evidence in relation to the effectiveness and/or safety of pharmaceutical products (the specific topic under discussion here), is available to every user of a product, to every prescriber of a product, to every family member or close friend or associate of a user of a product, should any of those individuals choose to pay attention.
Evidence is that which is seen, and it is typical of an expert class that they wish the rest of us to think that the only evidence which *counts* is that which is hidden to the ordinary person, but miraculously revealed to the credentialled expert.
But, you know, "the plural of anecdote IS data" (as Raymond Wolfinger *actually* said - though he is frequently misquoted - http://blog.danwin.com/don-t-forget-the-plural-of-anecdote-is-data/); and likewise, "the singular of data is anecdote" (as this blogger muses - https://blogs.iq.harvard.edu/the_singular_of), which means that evidence is what any of us may SEE, if we choose to pay attention.
And, finally, what experts choose to tell us, when they've expensively controlled the variables, and compiled the statistics, and presented them to their peers, may STILL fail to convince, if it contradicts what ordinary people can easily *see* happening all around them.
Re: 24-5 flu vaccine study
Date: 2025-04-10 06:38 pm (UTC)I specified that only RTCs supply useful information on the BENEFIT of PREVENTIVE medicines, which is a very different case from either of the above. How do you know that drugs taken by healthy people, out of fear of future disease, work to prevent this or that condition? This is not something individuals can see. Mom went on a blood thinner and then didn't have a stroke in the next year, so can you conclude it saved her from that experience? You cannot, because there was a 98.5% chance she wouldn't have had one anyway.
No non-randomized, data-dredging study can ever provide answers on the size of benefit in such cases, because people who choose to take medications to reduce supposed risks are different from those who choose not to. So the drug-vendors dig through a database and "show" that some drug either reduces the risk of every condition in the book, or at least doesn't increase the risk of conditions it in fact DOES cause.
So we get claims that covid vaxxes reduce your risk of being injured in automobile accidents. Suuuure. People who were quick to be vaxxed were more fearful, so they and perhaps their friends and family drive more cautiously. It is literally impossible to correct for such confounding factors.
Re: 24-5 flu vaccine study
Date: 2025-04-11 03:17 am (UTC)That line reminds me of how I've long found it interesting that despite all the pharmaceutical ads and propaganda out there, I never see ads for antibiotics...one of (or maybe the only) widely-used prescription drugs that seems to fit the above criteria.
Re: 24-5 flu vaccine study
Date: 2025-04-11 11:44 pm (UTC)Also, it's a waste of money to advertise for antibiotics, because you only take them for a couple of weeks. The TV ads are for things they want you to keep on pounding for the rest of your life.
Re: 24-5 flu vaccine study
Date: 2025-04-12 04:58 am (UTC)As Scotlyn wrote, had doctors, patients, or family paid attention to what they were witnessing, they could easily have figured out what was causing the spate of sudden deaths. Alas, due to quarantining, family was not allowed to witness enough details to put two and two together, while the patients were either too poisoned or eventually too dead to remember the details. It was the good doctors who failed to draw the obvious conclusions, which they were in the best position to witness and deduce, all because so-called "authorities" had given them unquestionable "health protocols" to blindly follow.
Were that walk down memory lane to remind you a little too closely of the covid ventilator scandal, where intubated patients ended up having a much lower survival rate than those left to breathe on their own, your unease could easily be explained away. You see, everyone is supposed to put their unwavering trust in so-called "authorities", thereby ignoring any life experiences they were actually around to witness. On the one hand, it's called memory holing; on the other hand, it's called acting like a good doctor. Obedience to sacred "protocols" (such as randomized control trials) is what sets scientists and doctors so far above the rest of us poor plebs, who are left outcast in the darkness to rely on our paltry observations and unquantifiable remembrances, a dreaded excommunication... which many of us have now grown quite fond of.
As for aspirin, you’re quite correct; it was indeed just obvious that it worked... at certain doses. It was equally obvious that it killed at certain other doses, but for some unknown reason none of the trusted “authorities” could arrive at that painfully (or perhaps even deadly) obvious conclusion. And that was long before those “authorities” could be publicly shamed into greater lockstep conformity by flagellating them with reams of randomized control studies. The glamour of protective “protocols” handed down by unquestionable so-called “authorities” [read: Dogmas] is nothing new in ersatz religions; it’s more of a hackneyed cliché, in fact. Our Dogmas kill as effectively in the age of covidiocy as they did in 1918, the allure of randomized control studies notwithstanding.
— Christophe
Re: 24-5 flu vaccine study
Date: 2025-04-11 12:45 pm (UTC)So, if we restrict ourselves to "drugs taken by healthy people, out of fear of future disease", then we are in the domain of gambling - ie playing the odds.
From the point of view of any individual person making a decision as to whether to take this punt, the sole value of an RCT is to provide the same benefit that a bookmaker provides to their punters, giving a fair assessment of odds. The punter then decides whether those odds stack up, for them. With no guarantee of success... it's gambling, after all! Odds are odds, not certainties.
The only thing that I would add to this, though, is that the standard of safety that should apply to drugs taken by healthy people, out of fear of future disease, is of the very highest and most rigourous. There should be a near zero chance of that drug taking away ANY of the health the person already enjoys, otherwise the uncertain prospect of not getting a feared disease that might never happen anyway, is a bet worth forgoing.
Re: 24-5 flu vaccine study
Date: 2025-04-11 11:47 pm (UTC)But it could also logically depend upon the likelihood of benefit, the likelihood of harm, and how much value or disvalue you put on each potential outcome. Whether you're at 100% health or not (who of us is, past 30?) has little to do with that.
Re: 24-5 flu vaccine study
Date: 2025-04-12 07:41 am (UTC)Nonetheless, the highest and most rigorous standard of safety should certainly apply to any drugs callously *advertised* at healthy people for the fun and profit of gazillionaires. If addicts want to search out the seediest bookmakers and most nefarious dealers in the furthest backrooms of the meanest streets, that's on them; however, permitting the Fauci's of the world to cripple and then liquidate the unsuspecting is truly beyond the pale. Just another of the unexpected joys of living through a time of civilizational unraveling.
— Christophe
Re: 24-5 flu vaccine study
Date: 2025-04-12 05:53 pm (UTC)In the dishonest world of drugs, we are continually offered "odds" that are:
1) statistically gamed to oversell potential benefits and undersell potential harms...
2) presented as the "prudent" thing to do; or as the socially conscious and unselfish thing to do...
3) aimed at training us to see ourselves as bundles of risk that we are responsible for managing well...
...and that dishonesty prevents us from detecting that (whenever we are speaking of those classes of drugs aimed at prevented a feared disease, or lowering a risk factor), we have entered a casino, where the house always wins.
Re: 24-5 flu vaccine study
Date: 2025-04-13 06:50 am (UTC)I’m particularly fond of applied kinesiology as a divination practice because the part of our soul that muscle testing allows us to communicate with, the embodied part that dwells on the physical plane, is exceptionally gifted at keeping track of and comparing multiple codependent odds and likelihoods. The embodied part of our soul is the part that is continuously monitoring, extrapolating, and then adjusting the rates of all the various subconscious systems that keep our organism alive. Core temperature compared to the extremities, cross-reference that with blood pressure fluctuation upon rising from sitting, plus low salt levels and high blood sugar, add a dash of dehydration, vasodilation from recent emotional stimulation, that ongoing arrhythmia, and a lack of several nutrients in the bloodstream. “Quick, conscious mind, figure out which ones need to be adjusted in which directions simultaneously to achieve homeostasis! Oops, not quick enough — you die.” Yeah, our souls really are that much wiser and more talented than our headstrong little conscious minds care to admit. Heck, that simplified example didn’t even touch on any the subtle plane influences and parasites that our souls have to continuously take into account.
Such extraordinary horsepower, steered by such an obtuse charioteer! Thank the gods that that charioteer goes to sleep each night, so the soul gets a fighting chance to try to rebalance its various levels without constant distraction. Of course, in the hands of an uncommonly clueless charioteer, any divination practice can get dreadfully corrupted. A conscious mind that manipulatively attempts to exploit its soul by abusing any method of divination will very quickly discover precisely how much wiser and more talented its soul is, as that soul carefully calculates exactly what answers its consciousness actually needs to learn from, rather than what its consciousness had hoped to gain from. Each soul is perpetually steering its conscious awareness towards what it needs to learn, but those lessons come so much more easily when the ambitious charioteer is not cynically trying to rein in and exploit the soul's natural goodwill.
So, the embodied part of the soul can do all kinds of complex calculations of overlapping causes with complementary responses in order to obtain optimal outcomes — that is its daily grind, after all. The trick is to remember that its understanding of causes, responses, and outcomes will always be incomprehensibly more subtle and nuanced than anything the conscious mind can understand. Just as focusing on how to align one’s will with the will of any god one interacts with will considerably improve the results of that divine relationship, so focusing on coming into alignment with one’s soul will considerably improve the results of that lifelong partnership.
In this casino world we will always find ourselves dealing with statistical gaming, social shaming, and manipulative training. Our soul learned all about those dishonest techniques long ago, and our conscious mind is always learning from and relating to our soul’s wisdom, even when it doesn’t want to, even when it’s desperately trying to run away from that wisdom. It takes an awful lot of lifetimes to finally relinquish trying to escape from the soul’s deep wisdom, then quite a few more to get the hang of actually aligning with the soul and its purpose in coming into incarnation. As long as we keep running off with our fingers in our ears, it's our own dishonesty that prevents us from detecting our soul’s wisdom. Once we stop all that frantic running and actually listen, we're able to hear our soul clarifying those dishonest techniques, calculating the complex odds, and clearly warning us “That shot will be the death of you.” The house only wins when we’re running scared away from our Selves.
— Christophe
Re: 24-5 flu vaccine study
Date: 2025-04-13 01:56 pm (UTC)"we will always find ourselves dealing with statistical gaming, social shaming, and manipulative training..." (nicely phrased)
"The house only wins when we’re running scared away from our Selves... [and when we play a different game of our own choosing, the house loses.]"
Yes. Exactly. :)
Re: 24-5 flu vaccine study
Date: 2025-04-14 02:09 am (UTC)But they did, and their games began. Their resulting self-immolation has turned into a delightfully cathartic sight to behold, has it not? Let's do be as generous as possible towards those self-styled Capitol-dwellers, and extend to them our most sincerest of wishes, "May the odds be ever in your favor..."
— Christophe
Re: 24-5 flu vaccine study
Date: 2025-04-14 11:46 am (UTC)Such a chronically underrated story, I'm certain Suzanne Collins has significant prescience.
Re: 24-5 flu vaccine study
Date: 2025-04-13 02:04 pm (UTC)What a perfect description! You've just absolutely nailed my feelings about that worldview.
Re: 24-5 flu vaccine study
Date: 2025-04-13 08:08 pm (UTC)https://www.davidcayley.com/ivanillich
Re: 24-5 flu vaccine study
Date: 2025-04-11 01:34 pm (UTC)So, your theory that people didn't get the shot because they assessed their risk as lower is not supported by the study.
Indeed, I went and tracked down the preprint instead of sharing one of the many articles about it exactly so I could see if there were any obvious confounding factors. The only one I see that's not excluded by the study description is that if folks have an exemption for one vaccine they usually have it for a whole bunch of vaccines, so interactions between previous vaccines and this one, or damage to the immune system from previous vaccines, is not going to be able to be teased out from problems with this vaccine.
BoysMom
Re: 24-5 flu vaccine study
Date: 2025-04-12 02:12 pm (UTC)When I read a report of a non-randomized study, I always ask: Can I come up with reasons why people in group 1 might be at higher risk than group 2? And reasons that they might be lower risk? Almost always, the answer is yes, which means that results are not trustworthy.
In this case, it is very interesting that the hazard ratio was 1.27 both before and after adjustment for "age, sex, clinical nursing job, and primary employment location." Often in studies that push an intervention, or that seek to demonize an alternative intervention, you'll see something like "risk ratio 2.1, after adjustment for [just a few demographic items that were in the records] risk ratio 1.4" and then they blare about the 1.4 as if it were holy writ. But in fact, what they've shown is that there are huge confounding factors and they cannot possibly have identified and corrected for all of them. Here, adjustment for age and job doesn't make a difference, which suggests that the effect is real.
Strange that the media aren't covering this...
Irish Skin
Date: 2025-04-09 03:55 pm (UTC)Re: Irish Skin
Date: 2025-04-09 05:05 pm (UTC)Re: Irish Skin
Date: 2025-04-10 12:41 am (UTC)Ahem.
Date: 2025-04-09 08:20 pm (UTC)The old lodge rule is good: criticize ideas, not people. Also, remember that the word "sarcasm" comes from a Greek word meaning "tearing flesh," and in a polite conversation it's about as appropriate as that. Thank you!
Re: Ahem.
Date: 2025-04-10 01:21 am (UTC)Re: Ahem.
Date: 2025-04-10 02:58 am (UTC)Re: Ahem.
Date: 2025-04-10 02:07 pm (UTC)Re: Ahem.
Date: 2025-04-10 05:49 pm (UTC)- Neptune in Aries. On its own it may not mean much, but it's making transits with people's natal charts that previously would have been in Pisces, yielding energy that's more bellicose than it would have been this time last month.
- Follow-on effects of the March 29 eclipse. With retrograde, cadent (thus weak) Mercury in Aries, Mars is its dispositor, and angular Mars in Cancer is in mutual reception with the eclipsed Moon in Aries. With Venus also retrograde, all this seems to be suggestive of "bad behavior" when it comes to communication.
- There has been some discussion in various Magic Mondays and these threads that the "black oobleck" some have noticed may be making its way from the astral to the etheric. I have personally noticed that over the past month I've had many unusually vivid, often disturbing or violent dreams, and have also felt stiff/sore and been feeling fatigue and pain more frequently with no obvious physical cause. I can't read auras; I am wondering if those who can have noticed any difference recently in people's auras.
- The tumult in the stock market may indeed play a role - even the young and personally uninvested will have parents, friends(' parents), bosses, older coworkers etc. who have 401k's or are otherwise invested, and their stress is tugging on any egregors they may be a part of.
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Date: 2025-04-11 03:23 am (UTC)Re: Ahem.
Date: 2025-04-11 05:32 pm (UTC)Caldathras
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Date: 2025-04-11 01:40 pm (UTC)Re: Ahem.
Date: 2025-04-11 01:52 pm (UTC)Covid/Medical World
Date: 2025-04-09 10:12 pm (UTC)Trump is proposing to make this dire situation worse by sanctioning pharmaceuticals. As we wrote in 2018 in China Rx: How the US Depends on China for Its Drugs:
The big message of [Rosemary] Gibon’s and [Janardan] Singh’s book is that the US relies on China for the production of active ingredients in drugs and in many cases, of the medications themselves, to the degree that we would have a public health crisis if supplies were interrupted. As Gibson said on C-SPAN:
"Many people that we spoke to, both former government officials and some in industry said that if China shut the door on exports, within months, pharmacy shelves in the United States to be empty, and hospitals would cease to function."
And don’t assume generics king India would step into the breach. India gets many of the active ingredients for its pharmaceuticals from China. Gibson forecasts that China will overtake India in generics manufacture within a decade.
As Gibson explains, the US no longer makes its own penicillin, in part because China dumped penicillin in 2004, driving the last US plant out of business.
The medications where the US relies on China include heparin, a blood thinner that among other things is used for IV drips. No heparin, no IV treatments. Due to the difficulty in tracing the source of drug company ingredients, the authors could make only case by case investigations, but they found China production to be critical for treatments for Alzheimer’s HIV, depression, schizophrenia, cancer, epilepsy, and high blood pressure.
Now, i know most of us here at least occasionally take Something, Aspirin Ibuprofen, ivermectin etc etc so i thought this might be something useful. Maybe stock up? I don't know.
there is more at: https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/04/trumps-additional-50-tariff-against-china-and-chinas-tit-for-tat-retaliation-trump-own-goals-himself-into-where-china-would-want-him.html
~Wolf
Current state of medical studies
Date: 2025-04-10 01:55 am (UTC)I found the following transcript quite relevant, especially given last week's thread where someone kept asking for more medical studies to show how bad the shots are. I mentioned that the ethicalskeptic has put in time and effort to piece together data, he said he knew about and wants even more, so give him the links etc. I didn't get angry or offended, as it was a Campbell situation - they are still in the throes of denial, it is what it is. He said he knew the medical system/ research function was compromised, and he's asking for more official studies to show how bad the shots are? Researchers have snucked in useful tidbits wherever they could, in order to get past the official censors, and we've pieced together many dots. Whether one wants to see the picture, it really is up to them.
https://x.com/newstart_2024/status/1908949418822300117
Bret Weinstein: "They are hiding everything. And what I mean by that is that they are sabotaging all of the mechanisms that we would normally use to figure out what's true. And that sounds like a wild exaggeration, but it isn't. The fact is it's not even just a an attack on the university system."
"It's an attack on every single university. The research done there is low quality, not repeatable. The lessons taught there are actually, in large measure, not even true anymore. Things that are verifiably false are taught as if they are true. Our regulatory agencies work exactly in reverse."
"They protect regulators from from citizens, not the other way around. So something is attacking all of the mechanisms in civilization that are supposed to seek the truth and act upon it, and that's not a coincidence."
"Our, truth seeking apparatus has been under such intense attack. We don't know what's true. Some things that are very easy to establish. It's not a difficult scientific question to figure out whether or not mRNA vaccines cause turbocancers."
"That's a very straightforward scientific problem, but we are nonetheless left to grapple with anecdote because to the extent that there are studies, they're likely to be set up to fail, and the rest is anecdote."
"So we are left to make sense of the world without the most obvious basic tools, without anything that flows to us from the enlightenment, and that is indeed a very dangerous predicament."
Re: Current state of medical studies
Date: 2025-04-10 03:57 am (UTC)It indeed shouldn't be difficult, scientifically, to determine whether mRNA vaxxes could cause fast-growing or aggressive cancers. The obvious starting point would be animal studies. As you say, Pfizer and Moderna's animal studies can't be trusted to be done right or reported accurately. But, not all nations profited from mRNA shots or widely adopted them. One of those that didn't, and that is now getting screwed over by the U.S., might just think about putting some funding into this. Almost any results, publicly released, could increase anger or divisiveness in the U.S., which is bad for us of course, but good for them.
Re: Current state of medical studies
Date: 2025-04-11 04:28 am (UTC)Re: Current state of medical studies
Date: 2025-04-11 11:48 pm (UTC)Re: Current state of medical studies
Date: 2025-04-11 11:50 pm (UTC)Re: Current state of medical studies
Date: 2025-04-12 09:06 pm (UTC)Re: Current state of medical studies
Date: 2025-04-10 08:55 am (UTC)Re: Current state of medical studies
Date: 2025-04-10 03:54 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2025-04-10 02:40 am (UTC)https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/4150566/dod-welcomes-back-service-members-impacted-by-covid-19-vaccine-mandate/
more good news
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Date: 2025-04-10 06:59 am (UTC)Here's my article today on the subject as well as some suggestions about how to push back these forces while maintaining as safe a distance as possible.
https://naakua.substack.com/p/the-demons-told-me-to-kill-you
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Date: 2025-04-10 04:53 pm (UTC)I expect the Tesla craziness put my True Blue Covidian brother-in-law in quite a bind: He drives a Tesla in an epicenter of woke near Seattle.
Discussing any of this with my family is a no-go. It’s not about making sense. Just emotions. The Golden Corral all you can eat buffet for noxious spirits.
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Date: 2025-04-11 10:15 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2025-04-13 03:21 pm (UTC)What's going to be the next dangerously uncool thing? I wonder. Oh... saying that you took the Pfizer and Moderna covid jabs. What was I thinking.
Seriously, though, it seems to me that, for some years now, there has been this barrage of one thing after another aimed precisely at the things many people take pride in. Of all things, and this is way back, I'm thinking of the attacks on women who were seen wearing fur coats on the streets in New York. I'm also thinking of Disneyland. Many people once loved and took pride in Disneyland.
It's a long list. Hmmm it might include solar panels. Isn't that a wacky notion.
Feelin' the Astral Ooblek and Takin' Note of the Circular Firing squads
(no subject)
Date: 2025-04-13 05:46 pm (UTC)ROFL!!! 🤣
Caldathras