Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 192
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ecosophia
We are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:
1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
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With that said, the floor is open for discussion.
This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-08 03:45 pm (UTC)Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-08 06:04 pm (UTC)Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-08 08:42 pm (UTC)That said, I am now aware of ivermectin and fenben, and that's what I would suggest looking into, too.
My faith in oncologists faded along with my faith in the medical profession that pushed the covid jabs.
Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-08 06:06 pm (UTC)Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-08 08:43 pm (UTC)Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-09 12:56 pm (UTC)Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-09 02:44 am (UTC)On Sunday, I bumped into my neighbor across the hall. He and his wife have lived mostly at their country house since the onset of COVID. However, I often saw her as she came into the city for shopping etc. I saw her last a few weeks ago, we exchanged pleasantries and she looked fine. He told me that she died about a week or so after I saw her of "turbo cancer" (his words). He told me it literally took a week from the time she felt unwell until her death. He then confessed to me that she blamed everything on the jabs she had had to get for her work. He asked me what I thought of that and I told him.
This all came as a great surprise because his wife had been very critical of me not being vaxxed and especially of me convincing my kid not to be vaxxed. I was quite taken aback by her apparent change of heart, needless to say.
Liam in Toronto
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Date: 2025-04-09 10:53 pm (UTC)SDPM
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Date: 2025-04-09 10:59 pm (UTC)SDPM
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Date: 2025-04-10 06:43 am (UTC)Liam in Toronto
Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-10 03:25 am (UTC)"This all came as a great surprise because his wife had been very critical of me not being vaxxed and especially of me convincing my kid not to be vaxxed. I was quite taken aback by her apparent change of heart, needless to say."
And it is quite possible that your stand on vaxx influenced her. Many people fell for the first round of intense gaslighting but then the repeated boosters (of gaslighting) started to have the opposite effect, especially when they saw the completely unvaxxed not dropping dead.
Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-10 06:55 am (UTC)My neighbor was nice but she had VERY definite opinions - as do I! LOL!! We agreed to disagree and never spoke of it again but I'm sure the shock of her diagnosis (understandably) got her thinking. Her husband told me she was adamant that it was the jabs. She had taken the standard two shots plus the booster - as did he because of his job. I tried to be "diplomatically" honest when he asked me for my opinion. He just nodded his head and then told me that he wished he had never done it. What else can be said?
Liam in Toronto
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Date: 2025-04-13 08:38 am (UTC)I actually have a lot of thoughts based on the vex-injured folks I'm interacting with. Simply put, the folks who reached out later, have developed more issues that we need to deal with, and it's much harder to resolve them as the damage has kept accumulating over time. A big problem is that we can't even do proper detox, as most have developed some degree of kidney failure. Last weekm I've discussed some of the kidney failure numbers I managed to dig up for SG via news articles... just before 2020, we had 2 new kidney failures daily. That became 4 by 2022, and 6 by 2024. That is the number for total kidney failure requiring dialysis. Lots more folks are now in various stages of kidney failure with much reduced kidney function. They can't take the normal dose of natto/serra, VIM etc, without quick swelling of their legs and feet (aka sign of kidney unable to clear waste products). So I've asked them to dial back the dosage to really just bare minimum, and it's still helping them, as we can still see slow improvement in their blood pressure and blood sugar numbers, but the progress is much slower and has to be managed more delicately.
Scotlyn (or any others) - would like to have your input.. is there a TCM procedure to help improve liver/kidney function? For the unvexed, we'll normally take milk thistle and it helps the kidney to work better and handle the daily detox load from the shedding. But for the vexed folks who only approached in the last few months, I have a sinking feeling that all the protocols we developed won't work unless it's done in conjunction with those folks doing dialysis, even if they don't have full kidney failure yet. Just a bit too much detox, and there's an incrased chance of them developing some auto-immunity issues, kinda like losing weight too quickly and releasing stored toxins into circulation. Generally speaking, the folks who approached me before the end of last year were still able to progress well with the detox program... for the folks who only came to me this year, most get swollen feet pretty fast, which clued me into the whole kidney issue. A small sidenote - low dose daily VIM seems to have the least kidney impact so far, people generally feel much better but not everyone has managed to secure access to VIM, and I am not putting myself into a position of vulnerability by supplying them in case the system takes more notice.
Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-13 02:57 pm (UTC)Gosh, this is the hardest question to answer in general terms (as opposed to when consulting individually with someone you can see and talk to). So I will throw out some general thoughts, in no particular order, and you will decide if anything speaks to you.
The first point I would raise is the one you have already noticed. In any person with a pathogenic load, the level of the load needs to be assessed, but so ALSO does the strength of the person's UPRIGHT QI. When a person's upright qi is not strong, the pathogenic load does not have to be large to cause damage. And in the cases you are talking about, the pathogenic load IS likely quite large, and has already had time to weaken the upright qi. So, the aim of any treatment has to include efforts to preserve/enhance the patient's upright qi at the same time as trying to reduce their pathogenic load in a way that does not further harm their upright qi. (You are doing already doing the second by making sure the detox effort is done more slowly and gently). So, my biggest suggestion is to look for any way to actively nourish/defend/preserve the person's upright qi. (Many of the common suggestions made here for nourishing the etheric body are applicable, and also anything that is emotionally calming, fear-reducing, and nourishing to the spirit).
Secondly, I'd say that with oedema there are a few things that might be going on there. In western medicine lower limb swelling may relate to heart function as well as to kidney function. But also, do not forget the micro-structures – capillary permeability throughout the vascular and lymph systems may be involved, with or without changes to heart or kidneys. Also consider whether it is possible to buffer changes in the fluid electrolyte balance, as they are affected by whatever is detoxing. I have heard of some people using activated charcoal in order to absorb toxins in their transit between liver and gut, to make sure they continue on out of the body and do not “wash back” into the liver. Apparently timing is critical, but I have not practiced this myself, so it would need to be looked intoin more detail.
In TCM terms lower limb swelling is a function of Spleen as well as of Kidney, and if there is pitting oedema, then you are probably talking about Spleen and/or Kidney Yang deficiency. Try building yang qi (possibly including moxa treatments). The other thing to consider (which I have been working at in my clinic since early in the Covid pandemic) are all of the ways to treat blood stasis (ie- microclotting, and all clotting or bleeding disorders). Fluids and blood and qi must harmonise for the body to perform all of its maintenance functions. In acupuncture we sometimes make use of the three-corner needle to treat blood stasis. I'll let you look that up. Both moxa, and three-corner needle treatments can be effectively applied at the jing-well points under the nail beds of fingers and toes - this is where yin qi and yang qi meet one another and begin to build strength.
Finally, perhaps a local TCM herbalist might suggest herbs that can rescue a person's upright qi, and mobilise their yang qi so that they can more effectively detox their pathogenic loads.
Whatever of use any of this might be to you, please also have my blessing, for all of the work you do.
Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-14 12:23 pm (UTC)I tend to do things on a studied 'intuitive' basis... not guesswork as many things would just feel 'wrong' to me, aiding me in avoiding deadends. Sometimes the inspiration may come after a few hours of readings, sometimes after a few days, plus lots of subconscious work. Then when a promising path appears, fate is kind enough to often provide snippets of info confirming my intuition, or a random person would post on the same subject out of nowhere and I would end up being in touch with the person so suss out what they've done with a certain protocol over time and their experiences. Following that, there would often be testing with immediate family members first, figuring that our genetic profiles would be most similar to each other, and everyone having a slightly different protocol to see what works best. I'm pretty much the initial guinea pig, to make sure stuff is safe first.
Fate has also seen fit to keep me humble and emphathic. When I had my turbo lung cancer towards the end of last year from shedding, I was pretty nonchalent as I knew I had stuff which worked well against it. I took extended breaks from treatment as it would make me more tired than usual as I needed to be up and about for family reasons. That gave the cancer more time to grow and by the time I decided to treat it aggressively, the fallout was significant. Going really high dose vim created a huge pathogenic load that overwhelmed my lymph nodes. Pretty debilitating pain, which forced me to test a combination of strong painkillers and taking a treatment break every 4th day to keep me at a functional level, instead of being bedridden with pain. That served to remind me that even stage 4 cancer patients should not be getting the very high doses being touted by various doctors now treating cancer with VIM. My gut feel is that such patients would still get excellent results at 1/4 of the suggested high dose (2mg/kg) if it's in liquid VIM form, and they might recover faster overall. Anyways, the whole episode served to remind me that most patients would feel very alone and scared as their bodies seem to go haywire, even as they're seeing a highly credentialed doctor. That reinforces the basic principle which I try to drum into the vex-injured folks I'm advising... slow and steady wins the race. Too fast, and you're more likely to trip and injure yourself further.
Anyways... back to the 'upright qi'. Niacin aka Vit B3 (flush version) is one of the key ingredients that I'm using to top up people's energy and also immune system. Quick recap, Vit B1 and B3 are the main energy carriers/enablers in our bodies, but we also need trace amounts of the other B (6/9/12 etc), which can get depleted over time if we mainly focus on taking high doses of B1 and B3. With acupuncture, I've used that to direct 'qi' towards a more specific injury area, thus speeding up the healing of said area tremendously. Taking niacin - is like juicing up the body's energy system in general, and so far it works well for most people in terms of the body knowing which areas need the more urgent repairs done, so the niacin gets directed towards that. We can't see the healing if it's mostly internal, but it's happening.
I've spoken to people who have been on high dose niacin (3000mg) daily for at least 6 months... they were initially in really bad state, and thus all that extra energy has been beneficial for them. A point of clarification - the B vitamins are not energy per se, you still have to get your nutrients and energy from food for the most part, the B complex just enables more efficient and higher throughput usage of that energy.
So I have enough anec-data for 3000mg, and 1 particular vex injured person who has a whole host of issues has been doing that for almost 2 months now and the severity and instances of those symptoms have lessened over time. We're trusting that his body knows best where to direct that 'qi' for healing.
Another point of reference is that when one is pushing that much energy through the body using niacin, if it's not used up or deem necessary by the body, the fasting blood sugar numbers tend to rise after a few days - that's our experience. If it goes up 3 to 4 days in a row and hitting the high range of normal, dropping the niacin level back to 500-1000mg for a day or two resets it to baseline. Aka no long-term damage done as long as we monitor.
In very recent months, my 2 youngest kids who are still in school started to exhibit signs of shedding damage in their own physical ways. Another big clue was that their fasting blood sugar numbers started to drop down towards the low end of normal, numbers which we almost never see with them. So the youngest kid, who was on 1000mg daily has been boosted to 3000mg daily. His blood sugar is now back in his previous normal range after almost 1 month... and when it goes high enough, we'll dial back the dosage accordingly.
The other kid was on 2000-3000mg daily based on the level of anticipated activity for the day, high level athlete. She is now on 4000mg - the highest we have ever used. It took about a couple of weeks before her minor injuries started to heal properly again. I had to think carefully for a couple of days before deciding to go that high for her as most firm literature on high niacin doses have been buried deep. Basically despite them using a number of anti-shedding protocols, the shedding load has become so high that their immune system is now being actively engaged directly on a daily basis, so much so that it was getting drawn down significantly.
For extra reference, both kids have also been taught to do the SOP daily....
Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-14 03:23 pm (UTC)I have introduced 3 or 4 of my patients to the concept of the SOP (with links to the relevant posts here). I never know what people WILL do with information they receive, but I was delighted when one of those people told me they had begun to do the practice everyday... and found it very emotionally steadying. :)
I do think that fear is highly injurious, highly contagious, and easily "shed" by its carriers - it may be the number one thing that we all could use more protection from.
Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-13 03:09 pm (UTC)Of course, for some people the ultimate goal will be to avoid hospitals at all costs - and for those people
- the issue of dialysis will weigh up completely differently.
In both cases, you will do what you feel called to do in support. And, having done what is necessary, forget it (Dao De Jing, Passage No 2)... :)
Re: This hits home.
Date: 2025-04-12 11:00 am (UTC)my dad was diagnosed with blood cancer two years ago. this was after he had 4 mrna jabs (didn’t want them but had to, to be able to gain access to the hospital to receive treatment for a separate non-cancer issue).
they gave him 6 months max to live. i got him on menbendazale and ivermectin. he was getting blood transfusions every week and now he rarely has them.
jez
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Date: 2025-04-13 02:27 am (UTC)The indications are that the mode of action is closest to fenben, but not exactly. While I think the worries about neurological issues from long-term usage of fenben is overstated (on purpose), the real issue as other folks have stated - is that fenben does taste like paint.
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Date: 2025-04-13 02:27 pm (UTC)Not sure if this info is accurate, but I have seen an online exchange between a layperson and a doctor where the doctor implied that menben was more easily absorbed by the body than fenben. Also on my radar is a paper describing administration of DMSO and fenben, to improve the amount actually reaching the bloodstream.
*Ochre Harebrained Curmudgeon*