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very up to dateWe are now in the fourth year of these open posts. When I first posted a tentative hypothesis on the course of the Covid phenomenon, I had no idea that discussion on the subject would still be necessary more than three years later, much less that it would turn into so lively, complex, and troubling a conversation. Still, here we are. Crude death rates and other measures of collapsing public health are anomalously high in many countries, but nobody in authority wants to talk about the inadequately tested experimental Covid injections that are the most likely cause; public health authorities government shills for the pharmaceutical industry are still trying to push through laws that will allow them to force vaccinations on anyone they want; public trust in science is collapsing; and the story continues to unfold.

So it's time for another open post. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry and its government enablers are causing injury and death on a massive scale. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its wholly owned politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you plan on making off topic comments, please go away. This is an open post for discussion of the Covid epidemic, the vaccines, drugs, policies, and other measures that supposedly treat it, and other topics directly relevant to those things. It is not a place for general discussion of unrelated topics. Nor is it a place to ask for medical advice; giving such advice, unless you're a licensed health care provider, legally counts as practicing medicine without a license and is a crime in the US. Don't even go there.


5. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. Also, please don't drag in current quarrels about sex, race, religions, etc. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

6. Please don't just post bare links without explanation. A sentence or two telling readers what's on the other side of the link is a reasonable courtesy, and if you don't include it, your attempted post will be deleted.

Please also note that nothing posted here should be construed as medical advice, which neither I nor the commentariat (excepting those who are licensed medical providers) are qualified to give. Please take your medical questions to the licensed professional provider of your choice.


With that said, the floor is open for discussion. 

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Date: 2025-04-08 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] anonymoose_canadian
Quite a few people involved with internet culture I've been tracking have commented over the past few months about just how easy it has become to automate spam. A number of forums I used to frequent have either shutdown or given up on moderation. At this point I think it's only a matter of time, and probably not a very long time either, before the open internet becomes impossible to use for any kind of discussions.

Do you have a plan for if the AI powered spam makes these kinds of open forums unmanageable?

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Date: 2025-04-08 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Is it Substack?

J.L.Mc12

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Date: 2025-04-09 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] anonymoose_canadian
I am extremely happy to hear it is not substack. I read their user agreement and want nothing to do with them having seen how bad their agreement is. Despite rhetoric and a business model slightly friendlier to content creators, they are at least as bad as most other tech companies in most ways, and worse than average in others.

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Date: 2025-04-08 10:53 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
JMG,
Thank you for your commitment to maintaining this space. I really appreciate it.

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Date: 2025-04-08 11:35 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Good to hear! Other forums I like to read for the lively comments have been going through paroxysms of hostile anons cluttering up the combox and making it impossible to hold anything like a conversation.

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Date: 2025-04-09 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] anonymoose_canadian
I for one strongly appreciate this. Even on those occasions where one of my posts has been deleted, it is usually, on reflection, for the best.

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Date: 2025-04-09 05:52 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] vitranc
I would like to join the thanks for maintaining the wonderful discussion space. Thank you.

On a more upbeat side, knowing your capacity for growing or regrowing orders and lodges. Down the road there might even be a prospect for a lodge system for commenters. 🙂
Just imagine using a grade: “apprentice ordained JMG commenter” 🥸

Best regards,
V

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Date: 2025-04-09 12:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] vitranc
😢 Right now. I’d like that a lot.
I’m really looking forward to Glastonbury. 🙂

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Date: 2025-04-09 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I understand your reasons for this possible change but I, for one, would miss the ability to make anonymous posts. I prefer that as little if my personal information be out there on the Internet as possible, so being able to operate without having to register and/or login in suits me. With login accounts, I also have to utilize the browser's private mode, as I do not trust the cookies being left behind. This costs me more in download data, as none of the web assets are stored offline.

Still, you gotta do what you gotta do and I will just have to adapt.

Caldathras

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Date: 2025-04-11 04:09 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Until you call us anonymous pests, I refuse to get a named account :)

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Date: 2025-04-11 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
That's good news. I still cling to the hope that some shred of online privacy is still possible. I've been able to be more frank here than elsewhere thanks to the pseudonymous anonymity.

*Ochre Harebrained Curmudgeon*

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Date: 2025-04-09 02:43 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The other day someone was laying it out just how bad this could become. A flood of posts that are automated via AI slop to keep people constantly on the the defense, or as you said, to simply overwhelm the moderation teams until they give up. A single desktop computer can now generate this stuff non-stop 24 hours a day, complete with fake citations it generates itself. When that gets weaponized into a business that can multiply that by thousands, it is going to be rough.

And yet again, we are cleaning up after those that were to interested in seeing if they could do something rather than question if they should.

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Date: 2025-04-09 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I can't even imagine what it means to be a teacher at any level these days with AI available to students....

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Date: 2025-04-09 07:32 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I was about to submit my investigative report on the members of a Masonic lodge conspiring to plot the next pandemic under the leadership of an archdruid. I guess that post will not go through :)

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Date: 2025-04-10 10:33 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] deathcap
Goodness, this checks out. We have an annual debate over which version of the GA flag we're supposed to use. The history behind the past hundred years of changes to the state flag is contentious, to say the least, and so the end result is basically no change, and we're using the one from the back half of the 20th. The neighboring lodge south of us also has this, but they're using the version that was effective for a couple years in the early 2000s.

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Date: 2025-04-09 08:11 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] the_arcane_archivist
I apologise I made one of that offtopic/"they"-quasy-deliberate post.

I put that post on my DW blog. I don't believe in a deliberate plot, but I think there is a will coming from the PMC class or the egregore, maybe from the wrong computer and mathematical model or science or mindset at least at the bureaucratic level much like how the Vogon popped the Earth(of the The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy fame). Maybe they have the math at the time but usually mathematical models may reflect bias from the author too, so is chicken and egg.
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