Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 31
Mar. 8th, 2022 01:18 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, as government officials scramble around like a cat trying to bury its droppings on a vinyl floor, and the unvaccinated wonder why so many vaccinated people have oddly puffy faces these days, the floor is open for discussion.
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Date: 2022-03-08 06:54 pm (UTC)Taking cell salts, elderberry syrup, vitamins C and D, zinc, along with some acetaminophen for the headache and fever. She is already feeling better, I am stable. Glad we're getting this over with!
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Date: 2022-03-08 06:59 pm (UTC)In this video posted on Jessica Rose's substack page, we see Dr Andrew Hill under duress, unable and unwilling to name those who influenced him to alter his WHO findings about Ivermectin.
It was this video that opened me to the reality that much of what we call official Covid Policy amounts to murder. They knew Ivermectin could help. They deliberately destroyed the possibility of using it. Same with hydroxychloroquine. Millions of people died so they could have their experimental gene therapy and test run social controls.
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From: (Anonymous) - Date: 2022-03-11 03:52 am (UTC) - ExpandThe future of health care and Medicare/Medicaid?
Date: 2022-03-08 07:02 pm (UTC)But now that I've turned 60 and am closer to retirement, and I'm wondering where it all goes from here. I would expect that due to rising costs, lawsuits, suspicious patients, unvaxxed nurses and doctors kicked to the curb due to mandates, etc., that the future has some changes in store for us.
Does anyone know of sources of information on how to plan for this? I understand Medicare has to be decided by 65, and there's a significant penalty for trying to convert from private care back to Medicare after that - but other than trying to stay healthy and finding a natural care provider, I'm a bit confused on where to turn.
Might be time to give up the motorcycling....(gasp!)
Re: The future of health care and Medicare/Medicaid?
Date: 2022-03-08 10:15 pm (UTC)My plan? No debt, some savings, plus things I can sell if I need to. A good dentist, a good acupuncturist, good chiropractor, good masseuse. A concierge medical service (there are some affordable ones) if I need something basic like a prescription for an antibiotic or some stitches. Good health reference books at home, for diagnosis and home remedies. Some education in first aid, and use of medicinal herbs, apitherapy (medicinal use of the products of the beehive).
CRUCIALLY: Know how to cook, and eat quality, nutritious food. Get some sun. Get some exercise. Love and laugh, and laugh some more. Be ready, when the time comes, to pass on to the next world with acceptance, dignity, and peace of mind.
The end can come in various ways. A motorcycle accident is only one of many. Whether to give up riding is a question only you can answer, since only you know how much that means, or doesn't mean, to you in the quality of your life.
I would never base-jump in a wingsuit, for example, but I can understand why some people so love to do that.
It's just beautiful to see people who are enjoying their lives. And I'd wager that enjoyment is correlated with good health-- causation both ways: more health, more enjoyment; more enjoyment, more health.
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Date: 2022-03-08 07:18 pm (UTC)Cetiosaurus
Vaxx Injuries / Adverse Events
Date: 2022-03-08 07:21 pm (UTC)Billie Bacon
First Dose of Pfizer on 01/15/21
Second Dose of Pfizer on 02/06/21
South Carolina
76 yrs old
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Q: What was your reaction, symptoms, & timeline?
No reaction to 1st shot and mild overnight flu-like symptoms immediately after 2nd shot. Then about 1 1/2 - 2 weeks after 2nd shot, I awoke one morning and couldn’t move my shoulders or arms (couldn’t push up to get out of bed). The pain was awful but lessened as day went on. The stiffness, immobility and pain quickly progressed to my neck, hips, legs, wrists, hands and fingers. By end of June, I literally couldn’t move by body in the morning. My husband had to lift me out of bed and help me get dressed.
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Q: Share your experience with any medical care and any diagnoses you have received:
I googled my symptoms and they were textbook for Polymyalgia Rheumatica. My family dr. and my rheumatologist both emphatically insisted that I did not have this because my blood tests were normal (despite data that shows 5% patients have normal blood tests). I was prescribed a short 6 day regimen of prednisone at 2 different times and the pain and stiffness were immediately alleviated. As soon as I finished the doses, my pain and immobility returned with a vengeance. The local doctors had no clue. Finally, I made an appointment with Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MI. My husband and I went for 10 days in August. They were wonderful and after 8 days of many varied tests, they diagnosed me with Polymyalgia Rheumatica! The treatment for this is prednisone for at least one year. I started on 15mg per day and am reducing by 1 mg a month. I am currently on 6mg per day still with no pain. The rheumatologist at Mayo said if pain returned after I finish the prednisone, he will give me hydroxychloroquine. No doctor would admit that my condition was related to the COVID vaccine. One doctor did say that vaccines have been known to cause this condition. I googled injections and Polymyalgia Rheumatica and it said that the flu shot and the COVID vaccine have caused this condition.
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Q: What do you wish others knew?
Do your own research concerning your health. Be cautious regarding recommendations from the government and big pharma.
READ THE COMPLETE Q & A at
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Thank you JMG:
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Date: 2022-03-09 05:20 pm (UTC)Till next time,
coming up in 5,4,3,2,........
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Date: 2022-03-08 07:26 pm (UTC)https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/spain-travel-covid-19-risk-list-to-remain-unchanged-for-another-week/
“All passengers arriving in Spain by air or sea must fill in a health control form before travelling,”
“If you come from a country at risk in relation to COVID-19, you must present a certificate or document proving vaccination, diagnostic test for active infection or recovery from COVID-19,”
-A Spaniard.
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Date: 2022-03-08 09:51 pm (UTC)I note from the website you linked to that:
"As for recovery certificates, the authorities have explained that the document is accepted as long as it proves that the holder has tested positive with the virus within the last 180 days.
"In contrast to arrivals from risk areas, travellers entering Spain from a third country placed on the safe list do not need to present a vaccination certificate or a negative COVID-19 test result upon entry. Spain’s safe list currently includes Colombia, Indonesia, Peru, Qatar, Rwanda, United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, China (including Hong Kong and Macau), and Taiwan."
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I'd say the take-home lesson from the last 2 years is, don't plan on anything that will break your heart or your wallet to have to cancel-- unless, I guess, you're crackerjack with the astrology and/or geomancy!
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From: (Anonymous) - Date: 2022-03-09 11:37 am (UTC) - ExpandAlex Berenson
Date: 2022-03-08 07:42 pm (UTC)"Does anyone know what has happened to Alex Berensen?
Mr. Berensen has been a beacon of light for me and I appreciate his fighting the good fight for the past two years. However, he has gone full MSM concerning Ukraine with behaviors he openly advocated against with covid. One particularly destructive behavior is name calling - whether Fauci or Putin, making fun of someones name is immature and childish and takes away from legitimate argument.
Secondly, he seems to think his lawsuit against Twitter will somehow win and force twitter to change. I am of the opinion that the courts are stacked against small plaintiffs and that the large company will just use lawfare to drag any adverse results so far into the future the case becomes meaningless. In my opinion the only entity that can use the courts to change twitter is another equally large company that can counter lobby."
We may add that Berenson also attacked Robert Malone saying he did not contribute to the invention of mRNA vaccines. That is patently false.
In my opinion, Berenson is not very bright, but is authentic. Given how ridiculous the MSM propaganda has become, he comes out as a positive force.
I came across similar commentators during the financial crisis of 2007-08. In that case, these were trained economists, who turned out be right on one issue (housing bubble), but went on to fully support bank bailouts, QE and other authoritian measures.
Sorry to say that an authentic fool is still a fool.
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Date: 2022-03-08 08:22 pm (UTC)Covid is a conspiracy but when it comes to Russia the government and media are definitely absolutely always telling the truth.
I recommend the Duran YouTube channel for an alternative view.
https://youtube.com/c/TheDuran
Kind regards
Sean
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Date: 2022-03-08 08:03 pm (UTC)I feel so bad for her. The social alienation she's experienced locally that was caused by the pandemic restrictions makes camp feel like the only normal place she can go--this is compounded by the religious component, as Jewish summer camp really is the only place she is surrounded by kids culturally akin to her--and now she cannot go because we refuse to get her vaccinated with a dodgy, improperly tested new technology against a disease she already had that caused no symptoms.
This isn't going to make or break anything. But it's the first time the insanity has touched my family personally. I was able to get an exemption and keep my job, my relatives think we're being silly about the fox but have agreed not to discuss it. We're missing a cousin's wedding but she lives in Canada and there's just no way for us to even cross the border b/c of the vax restrictions so it doesn't feel personal. But my daughter suddenly breaking down over not being able to see her friends this summer...it makes me sadder than anything.
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Date: 2022-03-08 08:32 pm (UTC)Age | 1 | 2 | 3 doses
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18-29 | 29 | -80 | 43
30-39 | -19 | -11 | 70
40-49 | -103 | -65 | 59
50-59 | -125 | -70 | 66
60-69 | -109 | -140 | 61
70-79 | -91 | -209 | 66
>80 | -103 | -222 | 37
The death rates per 100,000 increase exponentially from 0.4 in the 18-29 range to 612 for > 80 (2 doses).
I think these numbers show broadly that for Omicron the long-term effectiveness for 1 dose is -100% and for 2 doses is -200%. I assume still some effect of the recently vaccinated in the younger age ranges---the numbers are at any rate quite small there for all doses and thus the uncertainty is large.
If this problem is as linear as I think it could be, I expect the 3 doses to settle at some -300% after some months.
This is consistent with what Radagast was telling us months ago and graphed expertly here: https://www.rintrah.nl/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/1graph.jpg
"In the blue scenario, the immune response to this virus is effective, but it dissipates over time and so you need to receive continual boosters every six months or so, to remind your immune system to be on the lookout for this virus.
In the red scenario, the changes that occur to this virus in the context of a massively vaccinated population lead to a situation where the immune response that your body is taught to develop causes your immune system to be prepared in an inadequate manner. Your body is defending the Maginot line and the virus shows up through Belgium. You’ve seen different technical terms thrown around, like antibody dependent enhancement, original antigenic sin and soforth, but they all boil down to this basic idea: An immune system prepared for the wrong situation is ultimately worse off than an unprepared immune system."
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Date: 2022-03-08 10:13 pm (UTC)That's the best analogy for OAS I've heard yet. I'm going to use that one!
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Date: 2022-03-08 08:38 pm (UTC)This video is still up on Youtube. It is Gov Ron DeSantis, hosting a discussion with Dr Robert Malone and many others. I really hope all the Republican states go the way of Florida.
I have rarely voted for Republicans, knowing the party all my life to be about little more than making war and money. But watching this, I kind of wish the Presidential Vote was in 2022.
WHD
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Date: 2022-03-08 08:47 pm (UTC)We've all lost so much, and we've become so divided we can't even mourn the loss of our old lives together. Our self-appointed lords and masters have a lot to answer for.
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Date: 2022-03-08 08:47 pm (UTC)Here is the .html archive of all open post:
https://mega.nz/file/1M5EFByb#HT6vroUtdKOI_-kQHLoP7wGRJiCbgDx1xot3PniNTTs
.epub could not be made at the moment, I will try to either make it other day or in further weeks.
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Date: 2022-03-08 08:57 pm (UTC)https://archive.org/details/magicianul-eduard-florinescu/page/n35/mode/2up
I have seen some interest, I have translated the text to English for those that are further interested
https://ia601505.us.archive.org/19/items/the-magician-tarot/THE%20MAGICIAN%20-%20TAROT.txt
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Date: 2022-03-08 09:00 pm (UTC)Our country saw an increased death rate in the second half of 2021 after the vaccinations started. The government entity for counting vaccine side effects said there were at most 3 people affected. Most people know more vaccine side effects first hand! Now the government statistics body has announced it will investigate. The investigation will not focus on vaccination side effects, but on a host of other explanations (like other viruses.)
The last few weeks saw a flurry of ever stranger news stories. Sexual harassment allegations in show business (why is that news? yet it was big.) When the new government was introduced in parliament, all reporting focused on hatred against immigrants stoked by one politician; no other questions made the news. Someone stealing from an Apple store, taking a hostage, with the hostage being given a message by a robot, and the hostage taker hit by a non-police SUV.
Then the hypnotic focus moved to Ukraine. People are convinced Putin is the bad guy.
Like the earlier narrative, you're not allowed to doubt. For example, when I say the Ukraine imprisoned its opposition after the last election this results in real anger and ostracism.
In good news, there's more cyclists around, and I hear talk about setting the thermostat a few degrees lower.
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Date: 2022-03-08 09:04 pm (UTC)I would merely like to post two links without comment. One is a Pfizer document much discussed and I'm hoping to proliferate source documents, the other is a link I found interesting at Naked Capitalism...Forgive me if I screw up the html formatting for links.
Pfizer (https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf)
Interesting article (https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/adverse-reactions-to-covid-vaccines?s=r)
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Date: 2022-03-09 11:50 pm (UTC)Thank you so much. I just finished reading the article you pointed to,
https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/adverse-reactions-to-covid-vaccines?s=r
For anyone reading this post in the weeds of the comments section, I very warmly recommend this! I would especially recommend it to anyone who is considering a jab.
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Date: 2022-03-08 09:14 pm (UTC)this are the gets from previous posts
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/171121.html?thread=27057777#cmt27057777
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/171121.html?thread=27185777#cmt27185777
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/171121.html?thread=27345777#cmt27345777
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/171724.html?thread=27210444#cmt27210444
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/171724.html?thread=27242444#cmt27242444
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/171724.html?thread=27338444#cmt27338444
with this two standing out,
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/171724.html?thread=27434444#cmt27434444
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/171724.html?thread=27274444#cmt27274444
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Date: 2022-03-08 09:44 pm (UTC)https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/171121.html?thread=27057777#cmt27057777
stands too
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Date: 2022-03-09 12:02 pm (UTC)Since then, I'd been happily under the radar as one of a very few unfoxxed in the office. But just last week for some reason, I was told that I needed to wear a mask since I was unfoxxed. Didn't seem punitive, just seemed to come out of some dumb obedience to a poorly grasped "science" fetish.
I still have income without being forced to fox. So this was a compromise I could tolerate. Just one of many bureaucratic stupidities that make up my work day.
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Date: 2022-03-09 12:59 am (UTC)(JMG, if this is too off-topic, I apologize!)
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Date: 2022-03-09 11:42 am (UTC)My sister has trouble with her period now, and her gynecologist has told her that she will be troubles for 6 months, too. She was told it was effects of Covids...although she is boostered too.
My sister is 43 years old, yet fertile.
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