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walking toward sunsetThe corporate media, demonstrating once again that it has the attention span and cognitive capacity of a hyperactive squirrel on bad acid, has now pivoted away from Covid and is finding a new set of temporary obsessions.  Despite this, the semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a steady stream of comments, so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, as government officials scramble around like a cat trying to bury its droppings on a vinyl floor, and the unvaccinated wonder why so many vaccinated people have oddly puffy faces these days, the floor is open for discussion.   

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Date: 2022-03-08 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jeffinwa
Klaus Schwab, the great reset, covid as only JD could tell it. Dark humor, reminds me of Carlin but with a sharper edge. Who/what spawned these "people"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G3nWyoQ5CQ

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Date: 2022-03-08 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I like JD, but one issue in that video is his treating Yuval Noah Harari like he is Schwabs sidekick. Harari is trying to warn humanity about the implications of biometric surveillance, not advocating for it. JD mischaracterizes Harari, who has indeed been adopted in a way by the very people who are most likely to abuse the tech, but he is definitely not a monster.

WHD

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Date: 2022-03-08 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm not so sure. Though I hadn't seen the talk JD features here, I've always found Harari creepy. The way his books seem to be all "look how awesome us science humans are at having figured it all out!!1!", and the way he is universally admired by the msm - he seems like a figurehead of the very worldview that got us into all this trouble. A Radiance kinda guy.

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Date: 2022-03-09 06:51 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I totally agree that Harari is a creepy technocrat.

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Date: 2022-03-09 10:05 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This Harari individual is like an Overton window seller, looks like part of the plan
Also JD makes the case for angry gods hypothesis like nothing else

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Date: 2022-03-09 11:25 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
He is definitely a true believer in that he thinks history is a linear progression unto the stars, and he does think that is a good thing. I do believe though he is genuinely concerned about the power real-time biometric data would give those who control the algorithms. I think he is also profoundly naive, that he does not see the irony in his being a kind of pet historian for the current crop of global overlords. Maybe that does make him a monster, I'm just pointing out that JD's characterization of him makes him out to be something like an epic psychopath, and I don't think that is accurate.

WHD

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Date: 2022-03-09 04:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ari_ormstunga
Hi guys, I saw this video the other day and was pretty creeped out by it, thought I'd mention it's JP Sears, not JD, though. Sorry for being that guy, but I felt like it needed to be done. My son and I usually get a kick out of his videos. I did wonder if that Harari fellow was being presented honestly, as his comments were pretty cut up/edited in a way I associate with people being taken out of context. I'd never heard of him before this.

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Date: 2022-03-09 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jeffinwa
Thanks for the correction :-)

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Date: 2022-03-11 03:52 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Harrari could be Hillary Clinton with his comments on Ukraine/ Russia (unless I read a forgery/ hack twitter feed).
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