Magic Monday
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ecosophia
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From:More Questions about Discordianism
Date: 2021-12-27 05:13 am (UTC)2. Earlier, you had mentioned that a demon would say something like “2+2= Petunia.” How is this different from what a Discordian would say?
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Date: 2021-12-27 05:22 am (UTC)2) If a Discordian says that to you and you reply, "Hey, man, I don't get it," they'll laugh and say something else. If a demon says that to you and you respond the same way, the demon will be baffled -- 2 + 2 = petunia makes perfect sense to their logic, after all!
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Date: 2021-12-27 05:19 am (UTC)Next try, I drew the Three Rays and asked the Holy Ones to direct the power of the rite towards the best possible resolution of the (ahem) Current Situation. While the blast wasn’t deafening, it seemed like a decent attempt. At the same time, I didn’t get the contact buzz from the raspberry jam. Instead, it felt like I was wearing the fire suit from a college-era temp job in a foundry – I felt well-padded, and reality seemed a bit muffled. No ill effects noted… aside from no creative giddiness afterward.
Umm… Was this a bad idea?
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Date: 2021-12-27 05:22 am (UTC)Hexagrams and Mercury
Date: 2021-12-27 05:24 am (UTC)I work in the HOGD tradition, with Hellenic deities. The books I have ready for reference are Circles of Power and the Hellenic Golden Dawn; I use the elemental attributions of the pentagrams you devised for the latter book, as those are a helluva lot easier to remember than the traditional GD ones.
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Date: 2021-12-27 05:25 am (UTC)Let me start this MM by thanking you for your training! This past few days of family festivities organisation and begrudging cooperation have been, ahm, hectic and stressful. Oh the rage. The Druid egg was a very nice boon. But most remarkably, the passive working of the spirit within. It took all my ill wills and I’ll effects out of me and gave me the reservoir with which I was almost invulnerable to negativity. TSW.
I would ask some things on my mind these days.
- the DMH mentioned “the holy mistletoe” Why is the mistletoe holy? And where could one read more about it? Not botany, but myth.
- I have been scrying the elements. And unlike my first pass, where I just looked trough a gate. Now I am going in, moving around. And most importantly I drew the corresponding symbol and well. Each time something came. But it was always an incomplete experience. I could not see the guide of the first element. But I heard him speak at two moments. And the second guide at first grabbed me and dragged me to a better venue. And there I really concentrated and saw a part of it. I think they regard me as childlike/childish. How does one build up his perceptive ability while scrying, or for other grove work?
- to anyone willing to contribute; How do you “feel” anger? How do you feel if there is an anger from outside influencing you? How do you differentiate between your own and outside anger.
Best regards,
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Date: 2021-12-27 05:38 am (UTC)2) Lots of practice!
3) I find it easy to notice when anger or other emotions are being splashed my way from someone else -- it clearly feels like something outside me. That wasn't always the case, though, and I'm pretty sure the clear sense of interior vs. exterior is a product of regular meditation.
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Date: 2021-12-27 05:46 am (UTC)Aside from posting on Wednesdays (the day of Mercury), do you have any simple occult practices you could recommend for setting up and drawing an audience to a blog? (I have just started learning cabalistic magic, and will not be doing anything more complicated than the LRP for several months yet)
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Date: 2021-12-27 06:35 am (UTC)1) Don't write the same thing that everyone else is writing. You'd be amazed how many people do this and then can't figure out why nobody reads their blogs. Find your own voice and write about the subjects that interest you.
2) Don't try to market yourself. People are tired of hucksters. Just put your posts out there, week after week, and have a tip jar if anyone wants to donate.
3) Keep at it. It'll probably take you a year or more of weekly posts to get an audience -- that's how long it took me. You can use the time to work on your writing skills and develop your own voice.
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Date: 2021-12-27 05:48 am (UTC)First, I wanted to respond to last week. I mentioned that I had applied the teachings from SGO to martial arts with excellent results and you asked if I had looked into renaissance fencing and its associations. Unfortunately, I have not. I only found out about The Academy of the Sword a year or two ago and I haven't been training lately. It is on the list, and I think it is an interesting topic long term.
Second, I wanted to compliment your excellent Dolmen Arch book. I received a copy for Christmas and am completely blown away by it. I've really been struggling to find a spiritual path that I feel suitably comfortable with to make a commitment, and this book has helped tremendously. This mystery school, at last, feels right. I'm curious if you would consider DA the more occult side of Druidry as opposed to the more magical DMH? Also, would you care to make any comments about the efficacy / limits of this system's magical power compared to classical Golden Dawn work?
Third, If I remember correctly, either you or one of your associates (from the AODA, perhaps?) had a book about the hermetic side of the physical culture movement. Am I misremembering? If not, do you know where I could find it?
As always, thank you so much for your time and efforts. Both in attending these forums and in bringing these arts before the public.
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Date: 2021-12-27 06:42 am (UTC)2) Yes, the Dolmen Arch is classic American occultism with a Druid flavor. Compared to classic GD work, it's less focused on power and more focused on wisdom; you can accomplish things with the Dolmen Arch system, but it's much more about self-transformation and the development of wisdom.
3) Gordon Cooper, who was my successor as Grand Archdruid, planned such a book at one point but I don't believe he's gotten far with it. There's an enormous amount of research to be done there -- you might, if you're interested, look into Genevieve Stebbins, Joseph Greenstein aka the Mighty Atom, and "Peter Kelder," the pseudonymous author of The Eye of Revelation and creator of the Five Rites.
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Date: 2021-12-27 06:49 am (UTC)Following my queries last week about references for old texts on Sacred Geometry.
If you can I would appreciate 2 or 3 such references.
Many thanks & regards
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Date: 2021-12-27 07:03 am (UTC)Then what cracks a cult, mass exodus of adepts, disconection from reality and thus economical sustainability, the mental stalling, etc, but mostly their leaders going postal and becoming self-destructive by antagonising the greater groups external to the cult at some point the preasure from the external becomes higher and the degradation of the internal structure will make the cult collapde but a kernel might remain.
Is this a plausible dynamic of cults? Is it possible for the Branch-Covidian to take longer than predicted to wake up...
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Date: 2021-12-27 08:26 am (UTC)Didn’t keep any records so no way to go back and re-interpret the answers (guessing this is where doing it in a book had benefits over using an excel spreadsheet).
I also have to get over the concept that it should work out as four judge on the yes side and four on the no side – it doesn’t have to be ‘even’ to work!
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Date: 2021-12-27 08:32 am (UTC)What do you think will be the karma in their next life for the PMC-class type people who went insane about Covid and pursued the failed Covid policies of the last two years?
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Date: 2021-12-27 10:19 am (UTC)For a couple of years now I have been doing daily planetary invocations, originally based on those on Christopher Warnock's site. I have made up coloured slides with pictures of each planet and planetary symbols on them. Searching around for texts, I tried several before settling recently on the conjurations of the planets from the Heptameron. At which point I added the names and sigils of the angels. This is fine, but the planets of course are mentioned only incidentally in the invocations. Does this matter? Am I making it too complicated and losing the focus?
Grateful for your advice.
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From:Visualization Training
Date: 2021-12-27 10:28 am (UTC)1) Visualize a Color: I've got a collection of paint chips from the hardware store, in the primary colors. I spend time with one each day, looking at it, then closing my eyes and trying to picture that color in my mind. I'm trying to work up from one color to several at the same time.
2) Visualize a Small Ball: I have several small foam balls, cat toys about an 1"-1 1/2" in diameter. I roll the ball slowly around in my hand and fingers. Then I put the ball down and try to visualize the ball in my hand. Rolling through my fingers and sitting in my palm. Sometimes I also put the ball under my foot and roll it with the bare sole, then picture that in my mind.
3) Visualize a Crystal: I have a blue fluorite crystal. It is eight sided like a D&D die. Each side is unique with a different flaw, crack, chip or raised section. I run it through my fingers, feeling each side, and visualize first that face then imagining the next sections to each of the three sides. I try to picture the entire crystal in my mind. Once I get a good picture then I try and draw the sides as they connect on a piece of paper, and compare it to the actual crystal.
4) Visualize a Flame: I watch a candle flame and then close my eyes and try and imagine one in my mind, flickering and moving.
Any others you can think of?
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Date: 2021-12-27 07:17 pm (UTC)As for reincarnation, yes, that's an issue. Back when there were fewer human bodies to fill with souls, that was less of a problem -- it was normal for people to spend a century or more between incarnations -- but these days, yeah, you may miss meeting someone for a while. It'll all straighten out as the population drops.
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Date: 2021-12-27 07:27 pm (UTC)Circumcision
Date: 2021-12-27 11:52 am (UTC)I know this isn't your religion, so it's fine if you don't wish to comment, but could you speculate on what the purpose of circumcision is in Judaism? It seems like far too private a thing to be required for any identification reasons, so I am thinking it must have some other purpose?
The reason I ask is that I am not Jewish, but I had a circumcision for medical reasons when I was 6 - would it affect anything on the subtler planes?
Thanks.
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Date: 2021-12-27 12:43 pm (UTC)Inspired by God
Begins with meaning
Becomes a vision
Expressed in emotion
Transformed to energy
Creating physical motion.
Fingers strike a chord that
Animates the physical
Radiating energy
Generating emotion
Becoming a vision
Giving meaning
Which honors God
Admittedly a little rough - I’m more of a numbers guy - but writing it out like this helped me visualize the process better. Am I missing any critical function?
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Date: 2021-12-27 07:30 pm (UTC)A quick question about the 5 Rites, and more in-depth questions on the afterlife
Date: 2021-12-27 12:49 pm (UTC)Thank you once again for hosting this forum. I have two (or maybe three-ish) questions this week:
1. As the Judson etheric exercise is so similar to the first movement of the Five Rites of Kelder, I have been going straight from the Judson ritual to the second movement of the 5. Do you think this is appropriate?
2. My brother, who committed suicide ten years ago, appears in my dreams from time to time (including a couple this morning). I understand that suicides are believed to carry on roaming this world until what would have been the end of their natural life. I am wondering, aside from prayer and general good vibes, if there is anything specific I can do to help him, wherever he may be.
I am concerned about the dreams he sometimes had (at least twice) about selling his soul. By the very end of his life, his mental state had broken down to the point where did genuinely seem possesssed - he refused to recognise my mother in public, and pushed her off a train to get away from her. It did rather seem like 2+2=petunia sort of behaviour, looking back on it. Do you think his soul may still be in danger? My impression from the dreams and intuitions I have had is that he is not doing too badly, all things considered, but that he can get a bit confused, as he is in a rather strange and liminal state.
Sending best wishes for the new year to you and Sara,
Luke
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Date: 2021-12-27 07:33 pm (UTC)2) Prayer will help him; if you belong to a religion that does ceremonies for the souls of the dead, those can also help him. He's unlikely to be in any danger, as there are positive entities who take care of such people, but your prayers will benefit him considerably.
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Date: 2021-12-27 01:22 pm (UTC)https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/113/29/8168.full.pdf
The tl;dr -- this paper is easily summarized: bodily consumption of blood sugar in human subjects tracked with _perceived_ time, (sped up or slowed down in accordance with wall clocks that were subtly altered), rather than real time.
So this is an experiment where science and magic agree and reinforce each other. Scientifically speaking, although I'm not a biologist or brain scientist, but as far as I know, it is perfectly reasonable to think of the brain as analogous to a combustion engine, and blood sugar (glucose) is the only fuel which it burns. If your brain engine is "revving faster", due to an accelerated perception of time, then it consumes more fuel. Less fuel if it is "revving slower". Perfectly logical, and proven in a lab by this experiment.
But speaking as a diabetic myself, (mine is well-controlled, but I had a bad incident once, as with many diabetics, which forced me to pay attention to blood sugar) -- blood sugar has an _IMMENSE_ impact upon one's mood, and therefore perceptions. An immense impact, real, concrete, but difficult to quantify with formulae. Optimal blood sugar produces clarity and efficiency of thought -- too high or too low, in my experience, and a person will experience either "brain fog" (shutting down of perceptions), or anger and irritability (altered perceptions), etc. It seems to vary a lot with the person. (And a longstanding theory of mine is that the excessive amounts of sugar in the American diet contribute to the peculiar American irrationality that even the most obtuse observers are forced to acknowledge these days.)
It should go without saying that, although this experiment used wall clocks that were subtly altered to run fast or slow... a competent magician can produce the same effect at will with non-mechanical means. Launch into a boring speech, and your subjects will perceive time as slower, etc.
So there you have it. Next time you encounter a "scientific skeptic" who doesn't believe D. Fortune's definition of magic is valid, you can show them this paper. If they are willing to admit that blood sugar holds a large influence over brain function, then, case closed.
I searched your dreamwidth archives for "blood sugar" and found no entries, so I am hoping you haven't seen this paper before. If you're aware of it, pardon the repetition.
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Date: 2021-12-27 01:38 pm (UTC)There has also been some nice discordianism flowing around. Hail Eris!
Perusing the discordian library I found this Sermon on the Clown:
https://www.libraryoferis.org/files/Sermon_on_the_Clown.txt
I post it here as an offering to the clown spirits of old, and as a way to leak the lines of laughter from the greyface. So mote it be!
Also, don't forget the juggalo subculture in thoughts on the place of the clown in contemporary culture.
https://haenfler.sites.grinnell.edu/subcultures-and-scenes/juggalos/
The name juggalo is of course close to juggler and thereby hangs an image of the magician.
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Date: 2021-12-27 01:46 pm (UTC)My dad fell fell sick a few days ago. I heard that one thing that could be done was to ask a god or a higher being, or simply declare with a truly unified will that you want to take some of the burden of the person on yourself or to give them some of your own energy. I prayed to the virgin mary a few times in the hail mary form and asked her to do that, I felt weirdly purified and elevated but definitly not like I was helping my dad (I actually felt better physically), then, trying to fall asleep,I tried to ask to the universe, with a unified will, that I wanted to take part of his burden.It felt heavy and serious, and I truly meant it, even though I wasnt looking forward to get physically diminished. Nothing seemed to have happened and I felt even better physically...its now been a few days and my dad is slowly getting better, I'm feeling good but really not like energy is being taken or some burden is being shared...What do you think can be done to make it actually work if something similar happens in the future ?
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Date: 2021-12-27 01:47 pm (UTC)What are things that can be done in practical magic with the telluric current that can't be done with the solar current and vice versa?
I've been reading the historical literature about the odd corners of the past but I had a question. I didn't find mention of "allergies" in their cell salt manuals. Are allergies something new? Did they call it differently? I figured an historian of ideas might know the old lingo.
You mentioned last week that I needed to learn how to diffuse my attention instead of trying to focus on not focusing. This makes an enormous sense to me and also explains why I was so fond of blazing up, I really need to disperse my attention. I've been reading the Principia Discordia because I think part of my narrow focused mind is caused by an imbalance in my microcosmic Chao triggered by a Podge deficiency. I've been cursing myself with the Turkey with good success and the wobble has altered the space-time around me with a grin.
"Magicians, and progeny the scientists, have always taken themselves and their subject in an orderly and sober manner, thereby disregarding an essential metaphysical balance. When magicians learn to approach philosophy as a malleable art instead of an immutable Truth, and learn to appreciate the absurdity of man's endeavours, then they will be able to pursue their art with a lighter heart, and perhaps gain a clearer understanding of it, and therefore gain more effective magic. CHAOS IS ENERGY.
This is an essential challenge to the basic concepts of all western occult thought, and POEE is humbly pleased to offer the first breakthrough in occultism since Solomon."
No kidding.
-- Wobbling Citrine Lemony-fresh Opossum
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Date: 2021-12-27 07:40 pm (UTC)2) Allergies were much, much rarer back before we started saturating our environment with toxic chemicals. Most doctors never encountered a case.
3) Fnord!
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Date: 2021-12-27 02:51 pm (UTC)What was the actual role of St John the Baptist in the formation of early Christianity, according to Western esoteric lore?
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From:At the end of LRM
Date: 2021-12-27 02:59 pm (UTC)My question is about the magical lodge and finding one. Is this something that appears more when I am ready for it or should I actively seek one out? I am okay with being a solitary practitioner for the next couple of months but I'd love to expand. I keep returning to something Dion Fortune wrote about our work being a lagoon attached to a larger sea. I'd like to generate positive energy and work in my lagoon so that when it drifts out it adds something to the benefit of all.
What book do I go to next after LRM?
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Date: 2021-12-27 07:51 pm (UTC)As for a magical lodge, I'm sorry to say that these days most of the ones I know of are pretty dysfunctional, and those that aren't usually accept members only by personal recommendation. There are a lot of messed-up people out there in the occult scene! You might consider picking up a copy of my book Inside a Magical Lodge and seeing if you can find some sane people to work with, and then go on and create a lodge together.
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