Toward Ecosophy

The thing I find wryly amusing is that over the past five years or so I've gone from being considered "far left" to being considered "far right" merely by staying put! It is truly surreal.....

John, congratulations on getting the word out so widely, and good wishes for the success of your new book!

The Michael Decon interview sounds interesting, but unfortunately the host has chosen a platform which doesn't allow episodes to be downloaded. I'd love to save a copy to my local computer and listen offline later, but since that's not an option, I'll have to let it go, and spend my time doing other things.

I don’t know how many are drinking beer while they type, but your readers know all about those conversations that spin out everywhere!

—Lady Cutekitten

The I'm only about five minutes into the shorter interview and already I can tell it's the much-better conversation: all business; right to the point. Clear questions, meaningful answers. Good stuff.

Casey.

I think part of the reason for this is that we are now at a point in the timeline where asking even basic, obvious questions about official narratives is considered "conspiracy theory."

I am fortunate in that I don't have to take time from other things in order to listen to a good podcast . That's how it is when you draw or make stuff (as long as that process isn't too noisy). So I love high-quality podcasts, as yours reliably are.

Hello Mr. Greer, hope you are doing well. I listened to the full length of the podcast and it was phenomenal! Two years ago I was orbiting the neo pagan / witch community and became disenchanted for a number of reasons but one of the big ones was the binding of trump. At that time in those communities it was an echo chamber of why everyone who was anyone was going to participate in that " spell", and I thought to myself ya know I could really go for an opinion that is anything but this and truly I thought I would never find anyone who thought differently. Thankfully I typed a few key words into google and happened upon your page it saved my sanity. I am looking forward to the release of the king in orange and will be purchasing. Have a good day!

Not sure if this is Nitzchean, but it could be that the French army itself is hosting some seditious undercurrents... Well that's one of the places where you would expect to find far-right, paramilitary-style people after all:

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It's in French, but basically a bunch of army generals, high-grade personnel, and yet others among the army, have published an address to the nation in Valeurs Actuelles. Warning about the decay of the Nation, etc etc and then calling for sedition. This is one of the most notoriously ambiguous French right-wing periodicals, always bordering on the obscenely far-right with shocking, terrifying covers about this or that threat etc... Feels like WW2 isn't really over, when you see their covers sometimes.
Of course this one article got a lot of attention, and the indignation it deserves, because they are calling for a state coup led by the Army.

This comes straight after another 'lone-wolf' style Islamic terror attack, this time a guy stabbing to death a female clerk in a police office. There was also the end of the prosecution of a guy who pushed an old lady out from a window, to kill her because she was Jewish. The guy was not sent to jail, on grounds that drug and psychic troubles had compelled him to act and it wasn't a purely responsible antisemitic act. That verdict got a lot of public protests from the Jewish communities and from the population in general... The government is now proposing a law about judiciary responsibility for a crime. They will name a street after the old lady, in Paris. It's quite a strong symbol, more nadaid over an open wound. There was also a case of suburb hoodlums who were judged for trying to burn a police car and the policewoman inside, they were like a dozen and only 5 of them got a jail sentence. Some police force unions protested. Quite a few church fires as well, which always instill tension in the audience. I am not judging the right from the wrong here, or if there are culprits, etc... But the perception it creates is dangerous.

It will be quite easy to throw the baby with the bathwater, it won't be different this time.
The scary part here is that as years go by, the support of the armed branches of the state (army, police) is slowly eroding away. What's also scary is that the media is always about fear, how we are doomed if we don't change (the climate, the covid, what have you). So people intuitively feel that change has to happen. But a "military" change is not something that will come from the people, I doubt it will benefit many people.
And given how French History has unfolded, it's fair to say that each military crisis is handled by authorities in a way as to hurt many people. So the military taking over may be a sign of rosy flowers being shared by a lot of hugs... or of something a bit more sinister.

What's puzzling me is that certain options are still taboo: questionning our reliance on technology, for instance. Or, let's say, the need for spiritual life to help a community. Social technologies as opposed to electronics... We always fight terrorism, or threats from the outside like immigration, Covid or climate change. What's difficult is that the threats we now face are from the inside, like rampant complexity (of which globalization of goods' production and extreme transportation/inventory management is only an offshoot), increasing inequality, erosion of the social contract, crime and lawlessness.

When the Pepe the frog movie came out, the film makers and the artist who created Pepe had a conversation with Ira Glass ( i can't find it now but it was on youtube). Your part in the movie came up, the film makers were over the moon with joy at how the interview went, the artist who created Pepe thought you were the best part of the movie and Ira Glass really enjoyed that part also.

So... maybe send a copy to Ira Glass with a note that you are the Occultist from the Pepe the Frog movie.

I'm listening to the Michael Decon episode now, and am about an hour in, at the point where you're discussing America's relationship to the archetype of the King. (Perhaps you address what I'm about to say later, but with two more hours of the episode to go, I want to post it while it's fresh on my mind.)

It occurs to me that the King is part of America's Shadow. We were founded on a rejection of monarchy in favor of a republican form of government, and modeled ourselves on the Roman Republic, which did the same thing. But remember that Rome ended up with a kind in all but name: there's a quote by I think G.K. Chesterton, which I can't find now, to the effect that Romans hated and feared kings so much that they ended up inventing the position of emperor (which of course became a kind of monarch above a king) rather than admit that they had a king.

Several years ago, I ran across the idea that the American presidency has become an "elected monarchy." (https://michaelprescott.typepad.com/michael_prescotts_blog/2015/04/hail-to-the-king.html) Certainly the last several presidents have all relied increasingly on executive orders. The Covid-19 pandemic saw nearly if not all lockdown/mask rules put in place by executive order at the state level (contrast this with the Spanish Flu, where mask requirements seem to have been put in place by legislatures), and the Democrats criticized Trump for not using executive powers to do more, even when the Constitution clearly didn't give him the power they blame him for not using.

As you said, the King archetype is an outgrowth of the Father archetype, but I think you may have the causation backwards: perhaps we have issues with masculinity because we reject the King, rather than vice versa. It's possible that the demonization of masculinity is a result of the cognitive dissonance of repressing the King while moving toward installing an actual king.

I just purchased the King in Orange and am much enjoying the thoughtful discussions. When reading about the influence of the frog Kek, I can’t help but be reminded of the frog chorus in Aristophanes’ comedy play “The Frogs.” The frog chorus goes: brekekekex koax koax, incessantly, and they get into an argument with the protagonist Dionysus along the theme of the whole play, the quality of the literary culture and leadership of Athens at the time. It seems somewhat germane to the theme of your book and of public discourse, including the crudity of the humor in the play.

About sobornost.
I was reading Circles of Power today (it's a slow process because there's a lot of stuff that needs to be memorized, and a lot of things I need to meditate on) and I read the following:
"In Cabalistic teachings, each human is a center of consciousness on the border between individuality, the experience of being A SEPARATE BEING among other beings, AND UNITY, THE EXPERIENCE OF ONENESS WITH ALL THINGS.(P. 101, kindle edition)." It seems very close to the definition of sobornost.
As for my question about books on understanding The book of Revelations, I have purchased and read your book A history of the end of time Apocalypse. I found some answers there, and I'm finding some answers in Circles of power.
There's another interesting thing I found today in Circles of power. On p. 100 there's a magical square (tracing the Sigil of Zazel) and it's identical to one of the Chinese magical square (洛書). But I think it's not the thread to write about it.
I much prefer physical books, but with current situation we have to pay about 40 bucks for shipping.
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