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C-Realm Podcast logoAnother appearance on one of my favorite podcasts, C-Realm, with host KMO and I talking about the manufactured menace of "ecofascism" and the corruption of environmentalism in an age of virtue signaling and class prejudice. This interview is in video, courtesy of Progressives For Immigration Reform (PFIR). Check it out on YouTube here, or visit the C-Realm website for this and other lively conversations. 

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Date: 2019-09-12 02:26 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Didn’t you recently say you’re 50-ish? You sound about 18.

I sound really strange, because I had viral pneumonia in high school and damaged my vocal cords coughing and they never healed up right. Nobody ever guesses my age right on the phone.

(no subject)

Date: 2019-09-12 03:18 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
No, MY voice sounds weird; YOURS just sounds very youthful.

Is the beard a religious requirement, or would you have it regardless?

(no subject)

Date: 2019-09-12 08:17 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
To me your voice sounds perfectly normal and pleasant. Thank you for alerting us to a most interesting podcast interview.

Kind regards,

MILLICENTLY LURKING

Sounds like a regular adult to me

Date: 2019-09-12 03:01 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] candace_k
You sound like a regular adult to me. Might be anons playback.

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Date: 2019-09-12 06:32 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jolbytlan
I don't know that you sound 18, but you do have the voice of an energetic and vigorous man. Interestingly, you sound about like I expected. I'll be searching out your other podcasts. Some very good stuff in here, as I would expect. Thanks for the pointer to it.

(no subject)

Date: 2019-09-12 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thanks much I got a kick out of this.

What about the actual fascists?

Date: 2019-09-12 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
As you described them, groups calling for the political organizations of 30's Europe.

Besides the obvious effect of antagonizing those who don't want fascism towards ecology in general, I think there's another equally dangerous side to the conflation of ecology and fascism: people who were considering subscribing to it can now get the benefit of "leaves on the package" that brands use to market their products.

Not only is ecofascism bad for ecology as a movement, but it's also good for fascism itself!

JP

Podcast

Date: 2019-09-12 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jeffinwa
Always a pleasure to hear you; the conversation allowed expansion of your thoughts from different angles giving different perspectives for me.

Didn't know "the tube" had so many of your talks; new territory to explore.

Yeah!

(no subject)

Date: 2019-09-12 04:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fringewood
Enjoyed the interview. Thanks. One of your gifts is stating the obvious..it has helped hone my thinking process, particularly about the concept of conspiracy..the existence or lack thereof in events and situations.
Thank you for that.
Edited Date: 2019-09-12 04:11 pm (UTC)

Environmentalists are Nazis

Date: 2019-09-12 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Rupert Darwall proves that Nazis are environmentalists, and that therefore (presumably) environmentalists are Nazis:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q__pKHXfi-k

Interestingly, this interview appears to come from a conservative standpoint.

Kevin

Re: Environmentalists are Nazis

Date: 2019-09-14 03:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] methylethyl
I've always leaned conservative, and it frustrated me that the "R" side of the aisle was deemed "conservative" but also seemed to be the warmongering, you-must-approve-of-corporate-poisoning-of-the-landscape-because-capitalism side of things. It's nice that they seem to be on the verge of sorting that out, now. Not without a fight, I expect, because Monsanto's paying everyone off. But since the Dems are abandoning it, it seems ripe for the re-taking.

(no subject)

Date: 2019-09-13 12:00 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The writ was just dropped for Canada's federal election on October 12, and there is a surreal thing going on with the NDP (democratic socialists) going gloves off after the Green Party for racism. About everything. It's never been something someone has lobbed at them before to my recollection. The NDP had of course been slowly imploding for a decade, and had now reached a point they have only half their running candidates seats, and still feel entitled to The Left Vote. Meanwhile the Greens have been winning seats in by-elections, have a full slate, and are polling third place (with the big two centrist and right wing parties, the Liberals and Conservatives, respectively, jockeying for first and second). I'm sure that is not the real issue, though 😉

So far no one has been accused of ecofascism, but I'm starting to wonder if it's only a matter of time. It's too bad, I met the NDP leader Singh, and really liked his speech, i thought it sounded like he Got It on class issues, or at least his writer did. I don't like they'll take him down with them.

I told a NDP member friend I'd also met my riding candidate for the Conservatives at an indigenous function, and had lunch with him, and he seemed like a good guy, wanting to get back to traditional party values instead of the creepy social conservatism. Wouldn't be devastating if he somehow upended May in our riding. I'm a Green party member, but a local non party affiliated politician, so I know trying to find political alliances and compromises is really important to getting work done - but he recoiled and said too bad I endorsed a fascist. Uhhh,small Conservative government is the literal opposite of totalitarian fascism? We were jamming about common values across party lines and his pro bono family law work...opposite of repression of political dissent and being awful? Indigenous reconciliation function? He just blinked at me.

The media hasn't really taken the racism bait - they cover it, but they're not driving it - but it's the party lay supporters, especially - even perhaps exclusively - the white men I know, just frothing about it. Why the men in particular?

(no subject)

Date: 2019-09-13 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I suspect more women than men support the Greens, but it would be lower relative to the NDP - the Greens lose men to the Conservatives. I think, to be honest, it has more to do with masculine versus feminine leadership styles (compromise and collaboration vs beat your opponent into submission) and a LOT with directly threatening identity politics. The big attacks today are actually on the fact May won't whip candidates on their personal abortion views (the GPC actually refuses to whip - only explicit platform issues must be agreed upon). They must commit to upholding GPC's commitment to access to abortion under Canada's existing laws as a politician, but if they personally don't agree for religious reasons, they don't have to lie, basically. May herself may have objections, being openly Anglican. This means, obviously, they hate women.

This is a good run down article https://www.globalnews.ca/news/5448114/green-party-ndp-liberals-re-election/amp/

"... [I]t is hard to pin down a 'typical' Green voter. While Green support does skew to a younger voter, Greens can be found in both rural or urban areas, in most regions of the country, and across other demographic cleavages.

What units them is not demographics or socioeconomic status, it is values and what issues are important to them."

Dangerous ideas.

(no subject)

Date: 2019-09-13 12:57 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
JMG,

the podcast was as always interesting.

You might consider this piece of narrative building: https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/what-if-we-stopped-pretending

To quote the most revealing paragraph, which comes after the usual apocalypse sermon :

"In times of increasing chaos, people seek protection in tribalism and armed force, rather than in the rule of law, and our best defense against this kind of dystopia is to maintain functioning democracies, functioning legal systems, functioning communities. In this respect, any movement toward a more just and civil society can now be considered a meaningful climate action. Securing fair elections is a climate action. Combatting extreme wealth inequality is a climate action. Shutting down the hate machines on social media is a climate action. Instituting humane immigration policy, advocating for racial and gender equality, promoting respect for laws and their enforcement, supporting a free and independent press, ridding the country of assault weapons—these are all meaningful climate actions"

.. or in other world: every type of politics the liberal part of USA ruling class wants (or pretend to want) is meaningful climate actions, except for actual, real meaningful climate actions of reducing personal consumption.

We need better satirists.

--changeling

(no subject)

Date: 2019-09-15 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
There has been a lot of criticism of Jonathan Franzen's New Yorker piece, that you might want to look at before you write your post:
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https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-blast-climate-opinion-column-as-worst-piece-on-climate-change

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