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man concentratingSara's been reading Barbara Ehrenreich's recent (and apparently very good) book Natural Causes, on the way that the frantic quest for health has made so many Americans sick. (I'll be picking it up as soon as she's done with it.) One detail she quoted me from its pages is that at this point, the average adult American has an attention span of eight seconds -- which is significantly less than that of your average goldfish. 

Fortunately this is something you can do something about. Concentration exercises used to be one of the standard bits of occult training, and they're still worth doing whether or not you happen to be an aspiring occultist. The more effectively you can concentrate on a single task, no matter what it is, the more effectively you can do that task. And of course if you happen to be an aspiring occultist, the ability to focus your will and attention with unwavering force on your workings is a major part of success. 

The practices I used when I was first studying this stuff back in the day were from Mouni Sadhu's book Concentration. (Sadhu wasn't Indian, btw; his real name was Dymitr Sudowski; he took the name while studying in India with Ramana Maharshi, between a youth spent in Poland and the latter part of his life in Australia.) They're simple, they're effective, and -- like any good concentration exercise -- they start by teaching you that you, too, have the attention span of a mayfly. Here's the first of them. 

1. Get yourself a clock or watch with an old-fashioned analog dial and a second hand. 

2. Sit comfortably, with the clock or watch in a position that makes it easy for you to watch the second hand move. 

3. Watch the second hand move. Keep your gaze fixed on it, and note how many seconds pass before you unthinkingly look away from it or start thinking about something else. That's your effective attention span. Try again and see if you can better the first figure. Spend a total of five to ten minutes at this exercise. 

4. Once each day, put five to ten minutes into the same exercise. Your first goal is to get to the point that you can reliably triple your original attention span. Your long term goal is to reach the point where you can focus unwaveringly on that second hand, without thinking about anything else, for five minutes. Once you can do that, extending concentration to a much longer period is rarely difficult. 

Give it a try. An insufficiently developed ability to concentrate is a major cause of failure in life; a strong will -- and the ability to concentrate, in my experience, is the single best measure of your strength of will -- is a key that will open almost any door you care to name. 

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Date: 2018-11-04 01:29 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
1 minute and twelve seconds! Not bad, all things considered.

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Date: 2018-11-04 01:55 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] packshaud
Excuse me, what is a PSA?

Next in line, focus--I need to stop adding books to my wishlists in an attempt to make the Neo Alexandria Library. It doesn't help to read mostly English sites being Brazilian. Many books do not exist here (whenever possible, I get localized versions, much cheaper).

concentration test

Date: 2018-11-04 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] deborah_bender
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I decided to try for five minutes. About two minutes in, I started to have fleeting thoughts between the ticks. About three minutes in, I started to have thoughts that lasted two or three seconds, but I did not stop watching the second hand while having non-present-time thoughts. About three and a half minutes in, I started fidgeting a little (drumming my left hand) but continued watching the second hand until the five minute mark.

I like observing things that change slowly. For example, when I've scrubbed and rinsed my cast iron frying pan, I set it back on the warm burner to dry, and I like to watch the areas that have surface water dry, change shape, and evaporate. It usually takes about five minutes for all the water to disappear.

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Date: 2018-11-04 03:08 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I was able to get five minutes looking at the watch, but I felt my mind wanting to create a running commentary. It was a low-level tug of war between just doing, and thinking about doing.

It will be interesting to see if I can do the same or better tomorrow.
-Cliff

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Date: 2018-11-04 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yes, I noticed that too! I just used a technique from discursive meditation and kept gently redirecting my attention back to the watch.

I'm thinking now that this will be a good way to test the quality of my concentration, in addition to the length.
-Cliff

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Date: 2018-11-04 03:39 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
What's the average goldfish's attention span?

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Date: 2018-11-04 04:17 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Is the goldfish a Republican or a Democrat? 😉

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Date: 2018-11-04 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Do you have any sources on how to speak goldfish?

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Date: 2018-11-04 10:33 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The very first book on occultism I ever picked up (and I didn’t know that that was it was at the time) was Mouni Sadhu’s Concentration. I remember doing the watch exercise regularly and very nearly frying my brain with it!

The problem was that I used to tense up so much trying to suppress even the beginnings of a thought, that it felt like I was trying to split my mind in two. The upside to that was that it’s actually very interesting as a study in its own right to watch how thoughts arise.

Can't help but count...

Date: 2018-11-04 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I tried three separate times, and while I didn't have "thoughts" I noticed that I started counting each movement of the second hand around 45 seconds. It felt like that was a subconscious way of pushing away thoughts. Kinda like counting sheep to go to sleep. So what do I do with that tendency.

But is it a bad thing per se?

Date: 2018-11-04 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
In these times of political convulsions and having information fired at you at every turn, a short attention span seems like a very useful defense mechanism. Though it would of course be preferable if people picked less pathological activities to obsess over every other couple minutes.

concentration and meditation

Date: 2018-11-04 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Wonderful. I'll be ordering both books. I did the exercise for twelve minutes, but my inner monologue was trying to distract me almost the entire time. I'll make this a regular routine.

What a pleasant surprise as well: for years people have recommended meditation as a way to work through my anxiety, but I had found the exact opposite to be true. The "empty brain" meditation style, for me, was akin to clearing away all the distractions and allowing anxiety to eat me whole. The idea of emptying my mind of thoughts, and acknowledging but then dismissing thoughts as they arose, felt like I was in a batting cage and baseballs were flying at me one after the other. I was the only person I knew who got *more* anxious as a result of meditation.

Taking off my wristwatch and staring at it, though, achieved the results everyone has been telling me about. I tracked the second hand with my eyes, didn't let go, and in the background, I calmed. I have been working through DH to see if discursive meditation is up my alley, so I hope I'm on the right track.

Concentration

Date: 2018-11-04 06:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dfr1973
You recommended Mouni Sadhu's Concentration to me a while back when I asked about color breathing one Magic Monday. I started to read it, but at the end of the introduction he says to not read ahead and not be working on any other book at the time. So, it is waiting patiently for me to wrap up a few ongoing projects, so I can devote my last two reliably working brain cells to just that.

Music playing in head

Date: 2018-11-04 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Thank you for this. Does noticing music playing in one's head count as thinking something else? For instance, it's still playing now as I focus on typing this question :-)

-Morfran
From: (Anonymous)
I was surprised to lose focus after about four seconds, the first time I breathed out. And every time I breathed out after that. I don't know if I was just expecting too much.

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Date: 2018-11-05 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Sounds like the Islamic practice of learning the 99 names of God and then with or without prayer beads saying the names in order with brief reflection on the meaning of each. If your first language isn't Arabic you are usually told to say the Arabic first and then think of the translation briefly before moving on. If you forget a name, say one out of order, fumble with the translation, reflect more than very briefly on any name, etc... Well, then you start over from the beginning.

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Date: 2018-11-05 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Another mental discipline worth acquiring is that of not uncritically accepting glib assertions at face value, even (or perhaps especially) when they agree with your prejudices. The claim that "the average adult American has an attention span of eight seconds" sounds extremely implausible to me... Firstly, I doubt that the average American really struggles to tie their shoelaces without being distracted. More importantly, if by "average" you mean "mean", then the distribution must be quite odd, and both the median and mode must be quite a bit smaller. I would really want to see some very robust evidence for such a claim.

Dunc

Possibly an urban myth?

Date: 2018-11-05 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Googling this finds websites claiming that a study done by Canadian researchers from Microsoft finds average attention span dropping from 12 to 8 seconds, that being defined as the time after which your attention first starts to wander from some [unspecified!!] set task. However, this BBC article thinks the whole thing is a myth.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-38896790

This piece says that claim comes not from the Microsoft research but from another source, a site called Statistic Brain. However, that site makes its source fuzzy and efforts to follow up and find a source were unsuccessful. Experts in the field of attention didn't know of a study with these results, nor did they think it made sense (as attention span is well known to vary depending on task and circumstances). This may be one of those questionable statistics that gets passed around because it fits our beliefs. Which is not to say that electronic devices don't indeed reduce our attention spans - just that we can't precisely quantify the effect, and it's probably better to leave the goldfish out of it.
-Dewey

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Date: 2018-11-06 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Just looking around at the average adults I encounter, many can't even visit the toilet without some form of entertainment, usually watching YouTube or movies on their smartphone. If such simple actions such as this can't be done with a little focus, then what does that say for the rest of the day? How many people wake up and look at their phone?

Personally, I can't fall asleep without listening to some sort of audiobook. This trend in not being able to do something without constant distraction is definitely concerning.

Prizm

Natural Causes book

Date: 2018-11-06 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] https://openid-provider.appspot.com/bryanlallen
I very much recommend the Natural Causes book. Unless you’re a biology geek, the middle of the book may be a bit of heavy going. I’ve had a couple of people read the book with the instructions to start at the beginning, get as far as you can before you begin to bog down, then hop to the last chapter. I read the entire thing, and found myself wondering if she was going to be able to tie everything together by the end. To my pleasant surprise, I think she did. The conclusion is very interesting, especially to someone like me who is of a more mystical bent.

As always, best regards!

Ehrenreich

Date: 2018-11-07 12:41 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kimberlysteele
Not that you need more ideas, JMG, but I think we'd all love to hear your thoughts on the wellness industry (which includes Big Pharma and Big Health Insurance) and our society's extreme discomfort with death and dying.

As for the attention span thing, seems to me like memorizing a sonata or some other set of tunes and then performing it would go a long way to improve attention/memory.

Re: Ehrenreich

Date: 2018-11-08 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
re: John's thoughts on wellness industry: seconded!

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Date: 2018-11-07 12:53 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I find that thinking to myself "toc" and then "tic" with each move of the second hand helps. I hope that's an acceptable crutch for a beginner to use? It didn't feel like it was defeating the propose of the exercise

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