A couple of things here. Firstly, this is not a new theory--not only people on the fringes such as yourself, but also "standard" DoD mouthpieces such as Annie Jacobsen have published works on this (see, for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_51:_An_Uncensored_History_of_America%27s_Top_Secret_Military_Base -- unfortunately, the book is a bit of a waste of time)
Secondly, although I agree with you on many things, I think you are simply outright wrong on this one. While DoD definitely has some advanced tech, the things that come up on these radar far exceed what our current theory suggest is even possible (and if they far exceed what we think is possible aerodynamically, then it is not a huge leap to assume that perhaps things that far exceed what we think about transportation or energy consumption are also possible).
Their circumstances also suggest that these are not American in origin (you do not do stupid things near nuclear sites or naval aircraft carriers, for example--especially friendly ones and particularly around your own ones).
I realize that I will never convince you or anybody, and I have no interest in trying to do so, but I (respectfully) note that there is some irony in your criticizing the mainstream scientific establishment for being so narrow-minded about magic and yet refusing to acknowledge the possibility of extraterrestrial visitors.
For the sake of discussion, however, and just out of curiosity: What kind/how much evidence would you require to change your mind?
Anyway, I am not trying to be argumentative--I just believe that the preponderance of evidence weighs against your views in this case.
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Date: 2025-06-22 06:13 pm (UTC)A couple of things here. Firstly, this is not a new theory--not only people on the fringes such as yourself, but also "standard" DoD mouthpieces such as Annie Jacobsen have published works on this (see, for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_51:_An_Uncensored_History_of_America%27s_Top_Secret_Military_Base -- unfortunately, the book is a bit of a waste of time)
Secondly, although I agree with you on many things, I think you are simply outright wrong on this one. While DoD definitely has some advanced tech, the things that come up on these radar far exceed what our current theory suggest is even possible (and if they far exceed what we think is possible aerodynamically, then it is not a huge leap to assume that perhaps things that far exceed what we think about transportation or energy consumption are also possible).
Their circumstances also suggest that these are not American in origin (you do not do stupid things near nuclear sites or naval aircraft carriers, for example--especially friendly ones and particularly around your own ones).
I realize that I will never convince you or anybody, and I have no interest in trying to do so, but I (respectfully) note that there is some irony in your criticizing the mainstream scientific establishment for being so narrow-minded about magic and yet refusing to acknowledge the possibility of extraterrestrial visitors.
For the sake of discussion, however, and just out of curiosity: What kind/how much evidence would you require to change your mind?
Anyway, I am not trying to be argumentative--I just believe that the preponderance of evidence weighs against your views in this case.