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Date: 2022-07-04 06:11 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I wanted to add another data point to the discussion of the resurgence Odin and German culture from last week (https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/187900.html?thread=31467004#cmt31467004) as well as some general data points from looking at currently popular baby names in the USA.

Detailed current and historical baby name data in the USA is available through the Social Security website: https://www.ssa.gov/oact/babynames/

Focusing first on Odin and Norse culture becoming more prevalent—Odin has had a great surge of popularity as a name in recent years.

Odin entered the top 1000 names in 2008 and has been rising every year since then. It ranked in the top 350 names for boys born in the USA in 2021, with 999 American baby boys named Odin last year. Freya has been rising too, even faster. Freya first ranked in the top 1000 in 2013, and last year reached #152, with 1,853 girls born with the name. The Freyja spelling entered the top 1000 in 2019 and ranked #709 last year, with 402 girls given the name Freyja.

Surprisingly to me, Thor does not rank in the top 1000. (Loki doesn’t either!)

Broadening from the Germanic theme, I noticed some other notable or surprising deity/entity names in the top 1000 in the USA for 2021:

Boys:

Atlas (ranked #149)
Adonis (#223)
Orion (#314)
Ares (#513)
Titan (#741)
Castiel (#809)
Azrael (#837)
Aries (#915)
Azriel (#921)
Osiris (#948)
Azael (#949) (appears to be a version of Azazel)
Cain (#956)

Girls:

Luna (#11)
Athena (#98)
Lilith (#268)
Itzel (#561)
Selene (#721)
Persephone (#778)
Artemis (#865)
Mazikeen (#947, fictional but disturbing, so I had to include—she’s a demon in some TV show called Lucifer)

Picking a year at random to contrast, in 2001 the only boys’ names from the ones I listed above that ranked in the top 1000 were Adonis and Orion. The only girls’ names that ranked were Athena and Itzel (a Mexican goddess).

There’s definitely been a culture shift with powerful pagan god/goddess names gaining in prominence. Outcasts or controversial figures from the Bible or related lore are also appearing for the first time as common names (Cain, Lilith, Azrael).

I’m happy to see Luna, Athena, Freya, and so on gaining popularity. I find the Odin/Freya popularity fascinating.

But I do find it a little foreboding that two spellings for the god of war, two spellings for the angel of death, and several demons rank among the top 1000 names in the US for babies.

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Date: 2022-07-04 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] deborah_bender
To some degree, I think what is going on with the Germanic baby names is that after WWI it was socially unacceptable to giver babies the names of Heathen deities. WWII reinforced this. Few people who are old enough to remember the Second World War are still alive, so those names no longer stir the strong negative associations that they had for most people.

That said, I would never name a child Odin, or even a name that meant "son of" or "devotee of" Odin. That is too heavy a burden for a child to carry.

Film-series?

Date: 2022-07-04 05:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] emily07
Neil Gaiman conceived American Gods in 2001 and it got to be an internet- filmchannel series in 2015, Odin is one of the main characters in that series, maybe that's involved as well?

Dito with the vikings series in the same channel? I think thats where the current topknots for men came from

Mazikeen

Date: 2022-07-04 06:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ritaer
Lucifer as the contemporary fictional character started out in Neil Gaiman's Sandman series. At one point Dream (the main character) has to go to Hell to free a former lover. He discovers that Lucifer is quitting--freeing all the condemned souls and demons and locking up. Mazikeen is a demon who is in love with and totally loyal to Lucifer and follows him to earth, where he proceeds to run a nightclub in Los Angeles (and gets his own comic series written by Mike Carey. Mazikeen is drawn with one side of her face normal and the other skeletal. Her words are difficult to decipher because of this. She wears a mask to conceal her condition from the customers. I suspect that those choosing the name for their children may not be familiar with the comic character, but only with the TV version. Both comics incorporate a great range of world mythology and occult lore ranging from Shinto to Norse to Miltonian. Lucifer's long-range quest in the Carey series is to establish his own branch of the universe, one with NO gods or other supernatural beings and in which humans are forbidden to worship. The television version is no more related to the written version than television usually is.

Early in the Sandman series a magical order is run by a character obviously patterned on Crowley--although, since Crowley is mentioned as a rival, we are obviously not intended to think of Burgess as a disguised version of Crowley.

Rita

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Date: 2022-07-05 01:52 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Well, when we flash our receipt to the exit person at the local Costco, once in a while it’s a giant named Thor. The man is well over six feet tall, and very buff. Friendly, too.

Went to grade school back in the 60s with a Thor. Parents were Scandinavian, I think. Liked that kid a lot!

Point being, naming kids Jesus and Thor has been a thing for decades.

Might not be especially significant.

OtterGirl

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Date: 2022-07-05 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
For what it's worth: two of those names are held by my sons as their middle names! Orion is my 2014-born son's middle name, and Osiris is my 2020-born son's middle name. The latter did not go over well with my stepmother for some reason. Her problem.

I used to have a cat named Athena too. Artemis was on my girl-name list, but I never had a daughter so it went unused.
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