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walking up hillsThe pandemic has been scrubbed from the front pages at this point and replaced by a different hysteria du jour, but the semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a steady stream of comments, so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, as the vaccinated keep catching Covid (and many of them never quite seem to get over it) while the rest of us are fine, the floor is open for discussion. 

Re: "Being a prophet is meaningless"

Date: 2022-04-17 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

Yeah, but Dmitry Orlov said is a question of months in one of the latest posts

And now the time scale on which to track the progression of Western collapse is not decades, and perhaps not even years, but months!

https://boosty.to/cluborlov/posts/145b0747-d5ee-4e90-af2f-60d3e5444625

Re: "Being a prophet is meaningless"

Date: 2022-04-17 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future"
--Yogi Berra


But maybe not so tough this time-- Europe is looking at freezing next winter, dramatically higher costs for all fossil fuels, spikes in food prices, and outright food shortages due to a lack of fertilizer and other inputs.

The US is looking at much the same thing, perhaps not freezing because of no gas, but freezing because gas is so insanely expensive.
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