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walking up hillsThe pandemic has been scrubbed from the front pages at this point and replaced by a different hysteria du jour, but the semi-open posts  I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a steady stream of comments, so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here. 
 
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue. 

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules. 

With that said, as the vaccinated keep catching Covid (and many of them never quite seem to get over it) while the rest of us are fine, the floor is open for discussion. 

Re: The Halfway Point?

Date: 2022-04-13 11:56 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
"Eye of the storm" indeed - ohhhh my. I just met my first patient who is afraid he has COVID "again" after having recovered from it.

He seemed awfully bummed out.

I have a bad feeling about this.

*******

Who said, in the last post, that they were an unvaxxed mask-wearer? Heck, even I might be coming around to this position, if the endless re-infections turn out to be significant.

*******

I also just received, in my inbox, an internal medicine report on a patient, which says this:

"on review of evidence... my understanding is we do not have strong evidence to guide us as to the best practice in a situation like this."

To make a long story short, what this was referring to was, a patient who was suspected of having foxx-related chest pain.

I guess my point in sharing that one is to say, that clearly some specialists are clueing in that we don't really know what we're doing and better evidence is needed.

-Bofur

Re: The Halfway Point?

Date: 2022-04-13 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Bofur, as a doctor I assume you have access to an anti-viral mask, complete with respirator and helmet?

Otherwise what's the point?

I admit, I would love to be a fly on the wall when you receive a patient and (if he/she is foxed) you meet them in a full body suit and explain the reason...

Re: The Halfway Point?

Date: 2022-04-13 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
"I assume you have access to an anti-viral mask, complete with respirator and helmet?"

Well, you would think so, wouldn't you, I would think that my workplace must have an obligation to provide this for me if needed, although I don't where it is to be found.

As for "what's the point" - well, in a way I suppose that's part of my point, and what I mean is, that so much of this is about psychology, isn't it. Even though it appears that my 48-hour case of COVID was *very* mild, now that it has actually happened to me, I can finally understand a bit of that fear.

-B

Re: The Halfway Point?

Date: 2022-04-13 11:38 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hearthspirit
You are a good doctor.

If I may quote myself (Five Smooth Stones), I learned a long time ago that that is the attitude that matters.

"At the Amnesty International fundraising film festival, we screened two movies that stuck with me: one was about an African surgery clinic to help women who had lived through a civil war, and had experienced such brutal rapes - usually while trying to get to their agricultural fields each day - that they had developed fistulas. In the tropical heat, those fistulas frequently necrotized. What we were trying to raise money for, was a bus to help those women get to the clinic, as they would otherwise have to walk there, sometimes over hundreds of miles; run out of their villages, shunned by their husbands (if he was still alive), reeking and rotting and sleeping in the dust by the side of the road. No other bus would take them, as they smelled so bad. The surgeon was a man from the country - he had fled as a refugee himself, gone to med school, raised funds and returned to open his surgery after the war.

He insisted that each woman who came would meet him first when they arrived. It had to be him, he knew this, he said anything he did to fix them with his knife would be nothing, if he could not first sit with them, knee to knee, and speak to them about what he would do for them, ask them about their children. Speak to them, look them in the eye - and not vomit from the smell. Once they were fixed up, sometimes they could return home to their families; if not they would be taught a trade."
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