Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 36
Apr. 12th, 2022 01:02 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ecosophia
The pandemic has been scrubbed from the front pages at this point and replaced by a different hysteria du jour, but the semi-open posts I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a steady stream of comments, so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before: 1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.
2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.
3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.
4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.
With that said, as the vaccinated keep catching Covid (and many of them never quite seem to get over it) while the rest of us are fine, the floor is open for discussion.
Cognitive dissonance overload
Date: 2022-04-12 08:28 pm (UTC)The normies are dealing with how to explain reinfection.
The cognitive dissonance I get when moving from paragraph to paragraph, and even sentence to sentence, in this article is almost more than my brain can bear. That said, this is a great read, because between the lines, the article is screaming out about all of the issues we speak of here. I know this is a propaganda piece, but I feel like yelling “all the parts are there! Just put them together in the right way!”
Re: Cognitive dissonance overload
Date: 2022-04-12 09:55 pm (UTC)Re: Cognitive dissonance overload
Date: 2022-04-12 10:37 pm (UTC)Re: Cognitive dissonance overload
Date: 2022-04-13 02:32 pm (UTC)Re: Cognitive dissonance overload
Date: 2022-04-13 09:05 pm (UTC)If you had the raw data, you could calculate the total "area under the curve" for any given time period.
Re: Cognitive dissonance overload
Date: 2022-04-14 02:19 pm (UTC)I still don't understand why oh why are people boosting themselves with an vaccine for a virus that no longer exists. Oh it must be because those articles insisting an experiment possess no risks so why not?
Integrating the immunity curve shouldn't be too hard if we can approximate the function or I bet numerically is easier to run too. I'm interested, what does the area of a vaccine efficiency function give you? Unbounded it would give you the total amount of change in immunity but bounded as you put it?
Re: Cognitive dissonance overload
Date: 2022-04-12 11:01 pm (UTC)So I would just watch the rates of baseline infection and take our best guess at published vaccinated rates infection vs reinfection rates in Unvaxxed. I.e. if 50% of your population is vaxxed the moment you pass 51% it is no longer just Unvaxxed. Of course this is long on generalities and low on specifics but don’t set your bar to perfect.
Re: Cognitive dissonance overload
Date: 2022-04-12 11:12 pm (UTC)But a lot of people are not testing, they just stay home, and/or claim what they have is regular cold. And anyway who knows about the reliability of those tests.
Re: Cognitive dissonance overload
Date: 2022-04-13 12:12 am (UTC)But are the vaccinated getting proportionally re-infected more frequently compared the unvaccinated and/or are their outcomes getting proportionally worse? I think the answer to that might be yes.
Re: Cognitive dissonance overload
Date: 2022-04-13 04:19 am (UTC)https://dailysceptic.org/2022/04/09/vaccinated-have-up-to-six-times-the-infection-rate-of-unvaccinated-new-zealand-government-data-show/
Re: Cognitive dissonance overload
Date: 2022-04-13 06:28 pm (UTC)-Bofur
Re: Cognitive dissonance overload
Date: 2022-04-14 02:53 pm (UTC)I just re-watched a Bitchute video made by an Englishman (unfortunately, I cannot find out who he is) just before Christmas. He was articulate and determined and obviously nobody's fool. He warned that these people have gone too far to ever turn back and cautioned that people must not ever let their guard down and must remain prepared for a fight.
I could find no fault with his reasoning.
Liam in Toronto
Re: Cognitive dissonance overload
Date: 2022-04-13 02:00 am (UTC)Re: Cognitive dissonance overload
Date: 2022-04-13 04:38 am (UTC)That's quite an amazing admission given that 6 months ago, "the Science"TM was saying just the opposite. Of course, this is the story of this entire plandemic fiasco - it's all a page out "1984" so, of course, we've always been at war with EastAsia.
Liam in Toronto
Re: Cognitive dissonance overload
Date: 2022-04-12 11:01 pm (UTC)When is the admission that vaccines make it worse going to happen in the mainstream???
(Yeah, I know.)
Re: Cognitive dissonance overload
Date: 2022-04-13 11:26 pm (UTC)Since many people are strenuously insisting, by definition, everything ever written in the mainstream is a lie (especially government statistics), if the mainstream media ever runs it, or the source is a government, won't it have to be a lie?
We seem to be backed into a corner here. They say nothing, they're lying by omission; they say anything, they're lying by commission.
As someone who keeps track of the data coming out, can you recommend heuristic for how to sift through all the different media sources, and evaluate them on their individual merits rather than on arguments-from/against-"authority"?
Re: Cognitive dissonance overload
Date: 2022-04-14 03:34 am (UTC)By my count, just about everything they've said has been lying by commission, and everything they haven't said has also been lying by omission. There has been a ridiculously high percentage of lying.
So I guess the question is, why are we basing ANYTHING on what THEY say?
Murmuration
Re: Cognitive dissonance overload
Date: 2022-04-13 01:03 pm (UTC)Funny, I'm unvaxxed and was able to work from home throughout my covid infection. I've had worse flus.
Devi Sridhar is closely associated with the WEF and Hillary Clinton. She is exposed here.
https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/06/30/devi-sridhar-lies-to-the-public-again-by-claiming-not-a-single-child-has-died-due-to-the-covid-19-vaccine/