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wolf in sheeps clothingOne of the things I've been thinking about of late has been entryism -- the habit, very common in certain extremist political groups, of having people join some other, larger group with an unrelated focus in the hope of taking it over, or at least using it as a venue for recruitment and propaganda. I noted on this week's post over at the main blog that American secret societies, all through the years when they were large and culturally significant, had to fend off attempts at entryism, and noted with a certain wry amusement that the two groups most famous for entryism back in the day were socialists, on the one hand, and the Ku Klux Klan on the other. 

I wasn't exaggerating. On the one hand, it took the Masons a long bitter fight in the 1920s and 1930s to identify and throw out Klansmen who had joined Masonry with the goal of turning the Craft (that's what Masons call Masonry) into a wholly owned subsidiary of the Klan. On the other, quite a few other lodge organizations had to engage in similar struggles to keep socialists from taking them over -- that's when a lot of lodges started making the Pledge of Allegiance part of the opening ritual; socialists hated that and usually wouldn't say it, which made it easy for them to be identified and rendered harmless in various polite but effective ways. 

The irony?  There are two groups of people who quite frequently pop up on my blog, either trying to post links to articles on their websites unrelated to the topic of the weekly essay, or trying to give my feet a tongue bath because they think they can then talk me into agreeing with their positions. You guessed it: it's either socialists on the one hand, or people from the racist right on the other.

It's interesting that this should still be the case a century after the examples I'd studied. Now of course socialism and racial politics both have ghastly track records -- between them, they're responsible for most of the major genocides of the last century and a half -- and that's got to be a problem for recruitment. Still, given the abysmal historical ignorance of most Americans, it shouldn't be that insuperable. Some sort of subcultural heredity?  Or some other factor? 

Re: Differing Definitions

Date: 2020-12-18 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Define “species.”

—Lady Cutekitten

Re: Differing Definitions

Date: 2020-12-18 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Easy peasy. “Look at de fine horse over there in de field.”

—Lady Cutekitten

Re: Differing Definitions

Date: 2020-12-18 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] robertmathiesen
That is the very best riposte ever! 😂

Re: Differing Definitions

Date: 2020-12-19 12:18 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I am really not trying to annoy you here or become the next "dictionary troll" but in all seriousness I would be interested to know what you mean by socialist. On the one hand you could mean the eastern Cold War style Marxist, which is usually what the right means by the term. But the left sees socialism as the more peaceful, democratic socialism that several European nations experimented with (the guys who opposed Lenin at the 1920 international meeting of Marxists and played nice with western capitalists until early this year). Or for that matter you could mean people who think the oceans will turn to lemonade... Okay, joking aside do you see a big difference between socialists and Marxists or do you think of them as more interchangeable?

Re: Differing Definitions

Date: 2020-12-19 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
But what if one is honestly asking for clarification? I've ran into problems before when I realized that a meaning I connected to something differed from what others thought. It's especially disappointing when you've associated with people/organizations thinking you were in agreement, and then eventually realizing you are not in the same league after all.

Joy Mrie

Re: Differing Definitions

Date: 2020-12-19 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Well, that’s a LITTLE severe—maybe to sentence him to reading, or listening to, the local equivalent of Twitter would be more reasonable.

At that time, the local equivalent of Twitter would have been the loud guy at the end of the bar who knows everything and won’t shut up. Maybe Socrates took one look at that guy and asked for the hemlock instead.

—Lady Cutekitten
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