Toward Ecosophy

Coyote girl did a great summary. You are outside the matrix with the pretty people now.

Of course something else will blindside people. We have the most clueless leadership to have existed in the history of the U.S. They are busy preening around each other and for the screens and their one world government fantasies. They don't care what happens to you or me or grandma or innocent babies. Unless you have several hundred million dollars in which case you might matter.

Find like minded people in real life. Downsize your lifestyle. Learn to do practical skills. Get a spiritual practice. Journal your experiences. Have faith. Life sucked way more for people in the past. What did they do about that? How did they survive? How did you even get to where you are today? Some humble places to start.

"The minority of people saw through that, decided accordingly, and refused vaccination. Who was that? You, my readers. What made you decide this? I am sure that there were just as many reasons as people here. The main factor is that you all took a few minutes to think about it critically. You were independently minded and decided to think for yourselves.

1 Was it your general distrust of the government?

2 Was is your deep knowledge of virology and molecular biology?

3 Was it your experience with wheeling and dealing, exposure to scams and knowing how con men operate?

4 Was it your ability to think independently without needing people to agree with you?"

Here are my answers to these questions:

#1 - Are you kidding? Nobody who's been paying even a little bit of attention and thinks even a tiny bit for themselves should trust their government as far as they can spit a rat!

#2 - I don't have a deep knowledge of virology and molecular biology; however, I have a generalist's familiarity with various subjects (sciences/humanities) which all come with their own theory units explaining the epistemological basis that underpins their various knowledge claims. On that basic level, it was clear to me that various claims about the vaccines had not and could not have been properly tested, and that therefore those claims did not deserve the epistemological certainty that they were being badged/sold/pushed with. Also, many of the arguments 'special experts' made in support of the vaccines were obviously lies, gaslighting, logical fallacies, etc which raised further suspicion.

#3 - I have personal experience working for government, so yes, I most certainly have experience with wheeling and dealing, exposure to scams and knowing how con men operate (see point #1).

#4 - I am an anarchist by disposition and this tends to inform how I think and behave when it comes to dealing with experts. Sorry for the long quote to follow, but Bakunin explains this better than I can, and he has some good advice in the second paragraph about dealing with 'special experts' when they impose their authority upon one rather than allow one to accept/subordinate oneself to the expert's ideas/authority based on one's own reason:

"Does it follow that I reject all authority? Far from me such a thought. In the matter of boots, I refer to the authority of the bootmaker; concerning houses, canals, or railroads, I consult that of the architect or engineer. For such or such special knowledge I apply to such or such a savant. But I allow neither the bootmaker nor the architect nor the savant to impose his authority upon me. I listen to them freely and with all the respect merited by their intelligence, their character, their knowledge, reserving always my incontestable right of criticism censure. I do not content myself with consulting authority in any special branch; I consult several; I compare their opinions, and choose that which seems to me the soundest. But I recognize no infallible authority, even in special questions; consequently, whatever respect I may have for the honesty and the sincerity of such or such an individual, I have no absolute faith in any person. Such a faith would be fatal to my reason, to my liberty, and even to the success of my undertakings; it would immediately transform me into a stupid slave, an instrument of the will and interests of others.

If I bow before the authority of the specialists and avow my readiness to follow, to a certain extent and as long as may seem to me necessary, their indications and even their directions, it is because their authority is imposed upon me by no one, neither by men nor by God. Otherwise I would repel them with horror, and bid the devil take their counsels, their directions, and their services, certain that they would make me pay, by the loss of my liberty and self-respect, for such scraps of truth, wrapped in a multitude of lies, as they might give me.

I bow before the authority of special men because it is imposed upon me by my own reason. I am conscious of my inability to grasp, in all its details and positive developments, any very large portion of human knowledge. The greatest intelligence would not be equal to a comprehension of the whole. Thence results, for science as well as for industry, the necessity of the division and association of labor. I receive and I give-such is human life. Each directs and is directed in his turn. Therefore there is no fixed and constant authority, but a continual exchange of mutual, temporary, and, above all, voluntary authority and subordination."

Plus, I am superstitious, so no mark of the beast for me thanks :) (see point #1 again)

I'm also a long time lurker on Mr Greer's websites and those of a few others. I don't follow anybody just for their politics, or whatever, but instead I'm drawn to read the views of people who appear to understand that we are living on a finite planet, with limited and dwindling resources etc. Those kinds of critical thinkers are actually pretty rare, or at least it seems like it is rare for people with those thoughts to speak their minds publicly in an easy to access format and to not be afraid to discuss them.
On this last point it was interesting to me to find that all of the thinkers that I follow:
- are 'vaccine sceptics' when it comes to these 'experimental gene therapies'
- appear to have arrived at that place independently, and
- are ready to draw a line in the sand and make their own stands in their own ways about it.

Perhaps they all have something 'anarchistic' in them as well?

Or at least it seems to me that there is something anarchistic about being willing to speak the truth about these matters despite the flak that is sure to follow from pointing out that the emperor has no clothes.

Anyway, anyone else interested in sharing their answers?

These thoughts are much appreciated.

I identify with so much of what you said - The night and day difference between settings, the different realities. The way I too used to love museums and cultural events, but have lost interest in going back to those places, because I don't want to be around those people ever again. And I have the same main anxieties you do - forced vaccines, digital IDs, the health of other people.

This place also helped me stay sane. I feel like I owe an enormous debt to John Michael Greer and everyone on this forum. You are all a big part of why I, too, have not had to add "maybe I'm just insane" to my list of concerns.

I too am having trouble letting go of this. Specifically, I struggle with the lack of accountability. Lives were lost unnecessarily, relationships were ruined, small businesses were destroyed, children were made to suffer (and are still suffering in places like NYC), old people spent the end of their lives alone, important life events were missed, the economy was wrecked, and the people who were opposed to this horse manure from the beginning were mocked, vilified, censored, and abused....and now that they were proven right about the cost of the over-reaction, nobody wants to talk about it. Zero accountability. Not so much as a "sorry, we goofed". It's hard not to be angry.

All I can do is try to take it one day at a time, one small step at a time. Coming to terms with this is not going to be an easy process, or a quick one.

stcathaelxandria,

Thank you for this thoughtful post. My heart goes out to you.

My heart goes out also to so many on this forum. I know how hard this covidian craziness has been-- or, I should say, I can begin to imagine, because of course we each have our own unique situations, perspectives, and experiences.

I will say, it has been hard for me for many of the same reasons you write about here, and this forum has been a great blessing for me; it has helped me keep my equanimity, such as it is. It has also helped me to imagine that some of my posts might be helpful in some way someone else.

There are many in this world who have been working against the tyranny (this forum is part of that) and these many include some lawyers (Aaron Siri is my hero) who have had important successes. Of course the MSM buries that information as best they can. But the successes are there, some battles have been won. Things are changing, albeit evenly.

Anyway as we go into summer and fall, and yonder into 2023 I doubt that the uptake of boosters and any other newfangled vaxxes will remain anything like it has been in 2021 and the winter of 2022.

As for culture, as presented by institutions such as museums, etc, I expect the next few years will be see increasing decline, while outside of that government- and corporation-sponsored realm, it will be frothy with wildly fabulous cultural endeavors. True artists have always found a way. And anyone with patience and persistence can set up a 501(c) (US nonprofit foundation).

I remind myself daily, NOW IS THE TIME FOR IMAGINATION.

Cetiosaurus

*7. DID YOU BELIEVE THAT THE "VACCINES" ARE EFFECTIVE?
Count the "vaccinated" people you personally know who have had breakthrough covid infections. ***EVEN AFTER THREE INJECTIONS OF SAID "VACCINE"***