This topic came up toward the end of last week’s discussion, but I’d like to know about the pros and cons in more depth. It’s so difficult to work out where one can learn the truth about anything medical these days.

I’ve read quite a bit of material on it from Dr. Pierre Kory, who has a series on Substack. He and (apparently) others maintain that chlorine dioxide can successfully treat a wide range of illnesses, including cancer.

Others, among them an old friend of mine who’s a long-term AIDS survivor, feel that it’s a con or even a psyop. I give considerable weight to this friend’s opinion, because he didn’t take AZT back when Doc Fausti was flogging it and that’s why he’s alive today. He has a track record of sound intuition.

On the other hand, someone near me has been diagnosed with cancer and I feel I have an obligation to explore every possible modality, especially alternative ones. I don’t trust the medical establishment and I haven’t forgotten the deaths of many relatives from cancer; chemo didn’t save them.

Sorry if this isn’t quite on topic. But I’m pretty sure the subject would never have received such a wide airing were it not for the catastrophic fustercluck of state-sponsored Covidian cultism and its mandated quaxxines.

This is a post on RFK from UK anti-vax activist Miri Anne Finch who was 'activated' after coming to the US and being heavily coerced into taking a measles vaccine by an American University which threatened to deport her if she didn't comply: https://miriaf.co.uk/rfk-mmr-wtf/

Via her post on RFK we receive a succinct statement of the anti-vax position:

"RFK is really very explicit that this is his goal: "I am not “anti-vaccine”. I want safe vaccines."

And what's wrong with that position?

Well, first of all, there is no such thing: a powerful chemical injection can never be made "safe", only "safer". Some will still get side effects, some of them severe, and some will still die from these effects.

Yet even that is sidestepping a much more critical and fundamental issue: are childhood vaccines either necessary or desirable?

First of all, do they work, and if they do, is what they're achieving actually something we want to promote?

The answer to these questions - and as any honest researcher eventually finds when they go deep enough into the vaccine vortex - is no, and no.

Vaccines do not "work", because the fundamental assumption they are based on is demonstrably false, e.g., that the creation of antibody titres equates to immunity to disease.

When a vaccine is said to be "effective", this is not measured by whether it consistently prevents recipients from developing the condition in question, but rather, by whether it provokes the production of antibody titres in the blood.

As the authorities finally admitted during "Covid", antibody titres don't actually equate to immunity from disease (that's why we were relentlessly told that, even if we'd had "Covid" and thus "had antibodies", we still needed to get endlessly injected - because antibodies to a condition don't mean you're immune to it).

So vaccines don't work, because all they do is create antibodies, and antibodies don't equate to immunity.

But further than that, would it be desirable for them to work?To be clear: is preventing routine childhood illnesses something we actually want to do?

The overwhelming body of evidence says, NO.

These conditions are called "routine", and nature meant all children to pass through them, for a reason.

When children go through the process of measles or mumps or chicken pox, their bodies are undergoing powerful detoxes, throwing off toxic loads that may have been inherited from parents or accrued from other environmental sources. The evidence is very clear that going through these illnesses renders children overall less toxic, as they become less susceptible to toxicity-related conditions, like cancer and heart disease, later on.

What vaccines appear to do - why they create the illusion of "working" insofar as most children who have received e.g., a measles vaccine don't go on to contract measles - is suppress detox pathways, so toxicity that was meant to leave the body, stays trapped inside it instead, manifesting in much more serious ways later on.

In short, it isn't just the additional "crap" in vaccines undermining national health - it is the very mechanism of vaccinating itself, and stopping children from developing measles and other short-lived childhood ailments is actively harming their health."

JMG, please delete if this feels too off topic. Joshua Stylman has posted a series of articles on societal control. In particular, I found the third article in the series quite relevant to the Covid issue where he talks about how TPTB have employed technology to distort reality and promote compliance. https://stylman.substack.com/p/mkultra-the-hidden-hand-part-3-the

From the article:

"Two decades after 911 transformed airline travel and normalized domestic surveillance, the COVID-19 phenomenon demonstrates perhaps the most sophisticated application of reality engineering to date. Populations experienced not merely disagreement about facts but entirely different perceptual frameworks—divergent realities operating in parallel. Digital technology accelerated this fragmentation, creating the illusion of togetherness while physically isolating people in their homes, each consuming personalized reality streams.

The perceptual division continues today in visible daily patterns: some still wear masks while others act as if the pandemic never happened; remote work has become normalized for some professions while others insist on physical presence; and an entire generation of children now understands "socializing" as potentially meaning digital interaction rather than physical proximity. Beyond these behavioral markers lies something more remarkable: entire epistemological systems diverged, with different segments of the population inhabiting increasingly separate information ecosystems that render certain thoughts unthinkable within their respective reality tunnels.

This wasn't merely polarization but perception management at scale—the culmination of mind influence techniques applied at population level, where shared reality itself fragments into programmable alternatives. The Network's most sophisticated achievement wasn't just influencing what people thought about specific interventions, but creating parallel perceptual environments where the basic frameworks for determining truth versus falsehood themselves diverged."

And from the article's conclusion:
"Next time your phone buzzes, recognize beyond the addiction pattern:

The trigger-response conditioning mirroring MKULTRA techniques

The induced state of heightened suggestibility following the notification

The directed focus shaped by algorithmic curation

The loss of time awareness characteristic of hypnotic states

This isn't habit formation—it's The Network's tendrils engaging with your neurology through techniques pioneered in classified settings. What MKULTRA once achieved through trauma and drugs, The Network now replicates through digital immersion and frequency—only now, the subjects finance their own programming

As we'll explore in Part 4, the fight for cognitive sovereignty requires understanding that technology addiction is merely the delivery mechanism for more transformative consciousness manipulation. You thought the show was outside, but The Network's influence has woven itself directly into neural pathways. The Laboratory created the methods, The Theater staged the performances, The Network deployed them to billions—and now we face The Mirror, where we confront not just habits but the systematic programming of perception itself."

It was probably posted here already but I just came across it.

https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/dismantling-the-common-lies-used

Dismantling The Common Lies Used To Push Vaccines
How the System Continually Manipulates Us and How We Can Now Overcome It.