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John Michael Greer ([personal profile] ecosophia) wrote2025-04-20 10:39 pm

Magic Monday

w4eMidnight is almost upon us and so it's time to launch a new Magic Monday. Ask me anything about occultism, and with certain exceptions noted below, any question received by midnight Monday Eastern time will get an answer. Please note:  Any question or comment received after that point will not get an answer, and in fact will just be deleted.  If you're in a hurry, or suspect you may be the 341,928th person to ask a question, please check out the very rough version 1.3 of The Magic Monday FAQ here

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 image? I field a lot of questions about my books these days, so I've decided to do little capsule summaries of them here, one per week.  This is my seventy-fourth published book, the sequel to The Way of the Golden Section, an adaptation of some aspects of John Gilbert's version of the Golden Dawn system to the Golden Section Fellowship. What that means in practice is that this book, The Way of the Four Elements provides a sequence of rituals, meditations, exercises, and practices keyed to the four elements of ancient magic and philosophy, which unfolds over the course of a year and builds on the material given in the earlier book. Rituals for the solstices and equinoxes, and the making and consecration of the four elemental working tools of the tradition -- the book of air, the wand of fire, the cup of water, and the pentacle of earth -- are among the things included. Interested? You can get a copy here in the US or here if you live elsewhere. (I recommend getting the hardback edition; if you do the work in this volume, you'll put heavy wear on your copy, and the hardback will stand up to that.) 

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***This Magic Monday is now closed, and no further comments will be put through. See you next week!***

Re: Aetherodynamics of the Written Word

(Anonymous) 2025-04-21 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
How would I go about raising my vibrational level?

Workin' hard

(Anonymous) 2025-04-21 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Hello JMG

Could I please request some feedback on my current approach with the DMH?

I've been following the course since around August last year. I posted to MM about good results with SOP a few months back and promising initial results after starting weekly Grove practice.

This has continued with some breakthroughs on a personal level that I have in my journal as Heather and Oak incidents: my daily Ogham indicates Ur or Duir and that day I get a corresponding upwelling of confidence at something (or just in myself generally) or a clear improvement in my outer circumstances, respectively. It's been pretty inspiring.

I've hit an issue though. I do intend, at some point, some major workings to improve my life. As a first step towards this I was meditating through a first general SOP working to invoke/banish qualities; but Ogham then gave it a No No. Further questioning made it clear my Ogham thinks I need to go back and do lots more of the basic elemental workings before changing the SOP at all.

In truth I've avoided those basic active/passive workings somewhat, found them difficult to apply well, and I think the Ogham is indicating I won't fair better with an SOP working until I figure out why.

So there's this imbalance: the basic SOP/Grove is bettering my life, but when it comes to making my own workings I'm hesitant, a bit fearful and unimaginative, a bit awkward. I HAVE had successes with a brace of simple Air/Water workings I use for energy and confidence, but I've struggled to do much more.

SO, with that preamble could I check a few understandings that might help:

1. The DMH text doesn't say explicitly, but am I right in inferring the elementary workings are temporary in nature (or easily removable in case of an enchanted stone) and thus not generally requiring the full divination & meditation? Ogham seemed to be saying I need to be bolder and experiment more, and being able to just go for it helps.

2. I've noticed your instructions on workings in the SOP systems don't talk about how to "charge" a spell's intention as it were. When I first read about magic years ago it was usually practitioners who were into Crowley or Chaos Magic etc. so there was all the talk about inflaming oneself with emotion, or using drugs or other ways to, ahem, stimulate oneself.

One approach I've figured out that improves my hesitancy here is just being headlong about it: I choose a change I'd like to make, then just before casting I imagine myself in that mode with a who-cares-let's-do-it attitude, and this seems to get the energy flowing better, perhaps due to fear. Is this appropriate? Obviously with a larger working I'd be doing my divination/meditation first.

I don't know how much of an issue the above is beyond just needing practice, but I get the sense there's a larger fear needing confronted to progress.

Sorry for the length!
JH

Re: Aetherodynamics of the Written Word

[personal profile] xcalibur_djs 2025-04-21 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
"Mown Lawn" is atrocious, with the pretense making it worse than if it were merely incompetent. It reminds me of "If You Were A Dinosaur, My Love", a bunch of preachy twaddle which takes place in a progressive fantasy world where white dudes just go around being caricatured racist villains (in the real world, if your gay significant other gets jumped, it was probably by a black/hispanic gang). There was a dust-up awhile back over this winning a Hugo because diversity:
https://scifiwright.com/2022/04/if-you-were-a-dinosaur-my-love-by-rachel-swirsky/
Lector caveat.

To Anonymous above: Chinese scholars had a word (I forget at the moment) for chiseling out exactly the right wording to express one's thoughts. I too understand the limitations of pouring one's thoughts into the structure of a human language.

(Anonymous) 2025-04-21 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi JMG!

I'm starting to prep for my CGD Bardic Grade exam (it's taken a long time but I'm glad I persevered) and have a couple of queries.

1. You specify 75% ABV for the menstruum for making the tincture of Verbena officinalis. Can that be varied according to the four herbs I've cast and the recommended ABV for effective maceration? My four (and what I think is the right ABV, would be glad if anyone can point out any errors) are:

Mullein 25%
Lemon Balm 45%
Chamomile 60%
Lady's mantle 25%

2. You write that the blue sash should be "identical to the Ovate sash" - does that just mean in shape/dimensions or should the material be identical too?

3. I also have a general divination question. When the LW and RW combine to form either Ffordd or Pobl, does it have a consistent meaning? I'm thinking Ffordd = something's going to happen or Pobl = nothing's going to happen? I've cast a reading on whether I should send an email in an effort to improve tricky living conditions and had LW Bendith Fawr + RW Bendith Fach = Judge Ffordd. Two positives though make me think something good will happen? (I find the neutral figures the hardest to interpret.)

My thanks to you for providing this space and for your valuable time. My blessings to you and anyone else who will have them.

MW

(Anonymous) 2025-04-21 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I've started banishing and had a very weird experience. My ability to drink energy drinks has evaporated. I fairly abruptly went from drinking several a day to being utterly unable to stand the taste of them. What has me most intrigued is my coffee intake has shot through the roof as I'm trying to stave off severe caffeine withdrawal, and my diet is a mess of processed foods, and banishing has not had any effect on my ability to consume any other form of processed food yet. It is not caffeine, or processed foods; it is specifically energy drinks banishing has made me unable to stand.

a) Would I be correct to think this suggests they might have some link to unsavory energies?

b) Do you know if anyone else has had this strange reaction?

LBRP

(Anonymous) 2025-04-21 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Hello, JMG. I've been practising the LBRP daily for about a year now and I have 2 questions. (I don't do any ritual magic apart from that.)

1) Next month I will be traveling with other people for 2 weeks. This means I can't practise the ritual physically. Should I then perform it in my mind, or refrain from doing it around others?

2) Is it normal to feel like the banishing rituals aren't actually doing anything? By now I can do the LBRP smoothly and with focus, and yet I rarely feel any effect during or after. The only change I've noticed is that I have less trouble falling asleep (I do the ritual right before bedtime). But I have the same amount of intrusive and racing thoughts and psychosomatic issues as I used to (I guess this means that those are due to my own shortcomings and lifestyle, not outside influences?). So, what noticeable effects should one expect from banishing rituals, and should I consider changing my routine?

Thank you as always.
~ J.

Categories of Existence: Abred, Gwynfydd, Annwn?, Ceugant?

[personal profile] xcalibur_djs 2025-04-21 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been introduced to Abred and Gwynfydd; life in material incarnation, and the luminous life of being a spirit on higher planes, respectively. That much I get, but when I was looking this up recently, I came across other terms, namely Annwn and Ceugant, which seem to refer to further categories of existence. What do these words mean in druidry/occultism? I could try to do my own research, but I'd rather ask here before I follow any false trails.

Quaternio

(Anonymous) 2025-04-21 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Last week you linked your article about a possible link between the structure of the SOP and the Jung's quaternios to another poster. It was a fascinating read and will certainly serve as a basis for a longer series of mediations - as will the questions that I am going to ask:

1) The instability of a the masonic lodge ritual as it is shown in Diagram 1 jumps to the eye - however I would suppose that it needn't be so ? A table with three legs will never wobble and if the tips of the legs form an equilateral triangle on the table and on the ground it can be fairly stable. Do rituals that make use of three as a basis in a more stable configuration exist and if yes, where to find them?

2) Likewise it could be an interesting project to do what Jung has done with his quaternios using three as a basis. The "one" splitting in three which unite again in one, forming a double tetrahedron. Do you know of any work in this direction you could relate?

3) Using mathematics as analogy - Three points (or four if you want to use three dimensions) are enough to form a basis which allows you to describe any point that is contained in the corresponding space. If the points form a regular triangle or tetrahedron, the corresponding basis will not allow you to describe polarity as seen from a "quaternio-basis" with a single "basis vector", you always need two. Thus I assume that three as basis requires to think very different from what one may used to be. Also the "ternary" as I understand it is something different, because here a situation of polarity is resolved by a third factor. As I said, I am going to invest some effort into meditating on the subject - but maybe you have anything to add before I do so?

Have a good day!

Cheers,
Nachtgurke

From last week

(Anonymous) 2025-04-21 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for explaining what archetypical images are last week, and recommending mysterium coniunctionis. I have ordered it, but it will take me a bit to get through.

Meantime just wanted to clarify some things.
1) So the sacred marriage is an archetypical image of the process of individuation /union of opposites, but not directly the image of the self (which tends to do with wholeness/mandalas etc)?

2) Would you say that kundalini awakenings are one form of the union of opposites process (and a particularly energy-activation focused one), but there are other forms too? For example, contemplation or devotion? If this were to be true, does that mean this process of the union is some type of platonic form /noetic form which instantiate in human life in different ways?

3) I can understand that the mother image, father image, anima etc are all hardwired psychic images of the instincts developed over evolution of bodies, but can there really be an instinct-correlate for the self archetype?

It seems like a higher order, nearly metaphysical, principle, almost akin to the idea that we are made in the image of god, or a noetic object such as tiferet. Could you help me understand this aspect better?
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Mental development and MSM awareness

[personal profile] charlieobert 2025-04-21 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
This question is a spin-off from an earlier discussion on developing the mental sheath as opposed to juggling astral symbols.

Is there a connection between mental development and the ability to become aware of how the media manipulates people? It seems to me you'd need to have a certain ability to distance yourself from your own emotional response to symbols to see how the media plays with them.

If this is the case then it explains the frustration I see over on the covid forum at how small a percentage of people seem to be able to wake up and respond rationally rather than emotionally. The overall percentage of people who have much mental level awareness at all doesn't seem to be all that high.

Re: Energetic Body Question

(Anonymous) 2025-04-21 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Not a question; I just wanted to extend my deep gratitude for your response.

Thank you for the many things you do yo enrich the world!

Brad

(Anonymous) 2025-04-21 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
The Aries - Pisces distinction explains why the Old Testament Abrahamic God seems extremely different to the New Testament God in the Bible.

Re: A bullet as a healing tool

(Anonymous) 2025-04-21 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
There is a method oddly similar in the work of Aiden Wachter, where some pre-human ancestors gave him something called a "fever-stone" to remove trauma from himself. It is in his book "Weaving Fate".
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[personal profile] illyria2001 2025-04-21 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Hello JMG. When you say that passions are etheric, does this mean instincts are etheric as well?

Re: A bullet as a healing tool

(Anonymous) 2025-04-21 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll modify what I wrote above in praise of GR: First, Pynchon's books are long, life short. I've read most if not all of his work, some of it multiple times. Second, I think the esoteric content is thin, all things considered; a great deal of smoke and mirrors. The phrase "intellectual masturbation" comes to mind. But GR (at three readings) is probably the best candidate for being esoterically meaningful. Even so, I thought "Mason & Dixon" (at two readings) was the most enjoyable. I really liked Vaucasson's mechanical duck, the giant cheese wheel, the talking dog, etc.. You get the idea.

(Anonymous) 2025-04-22 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
That sounds very useful, thank you. I practice GD-style magic.
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Re: Aetherodynamics of the Written Word

[personal profile] ritaer 2025-04-22 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Several years ago, I worked as grader for standardized exams. We were provided with rubrics for assigning scores to essays written in response to prompts. One essay prompt asked students what they would do if they had a duplicate of themselves. Most replied that they would assign the duplicate their chores or their homework. What you would expect from middle school kids. One student wrote a lovely essay saying that he wouldn't do anything with the duplicate, that essentially, he wanted to live his own life, all of it. It broke my heart that I could not award ANY points, because points were assigned on the basis of each thing the duplicate would do. Since each test was reviewed by several graders trying to cheat the system would not have helped. So this student got a 0 on that question because he thought outside the box.

On a lighter note, I learned from a different exam that a great number of Arizona students think that there is absolutely nothing to do in their state.

Rita
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Mown Lawn

[personal profile] ritaer 2025-04-22 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
I clicked through to the ad for the anthology the piece came from. At least it is correct--Samual Johnson would be indignant.

Rita

Re: Aetherodynamics of the Written Word

(Anonymous) 2025-04-22 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Wow--I honestly couldn't have ever imagined that it was possible to publish such crap...or that a professional writer would ever be brave enough to attach their name to it.

If there is a literary equivalent to the modern art scene, this must be as close to it as I will ever find.

Re: Aetherodynamics of the Written Word

(Anonymous) 2025-04-22 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
OK, I felt this strange desire to re-read it just to see if it could really be as bad as my first impression. I am now wondering if this makes me a masochist or if it makes me more like someone rubbernecking as he drives passed a really bad trainwreck. Maybe I should use divination to find out.

To paraphrase Jay Leno, if Forrest Gump read it, he would have lost another 20 IQ points. This thing is so bad that I don't think it can even be parodied.

Good kids play Rook

(Anonymous) 2025-04-22 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Rook is a very popular card game in the region where I live. Recently I was doing some reading and found out that Parker Brothers developed the game to appeal to religious people who object to the standard 52-card deck due to its being used for divination. Now I'm not judging; to each his own. And I admit I am very new to occultism, so I might very well be mistaken. So I ask the expert--is it an accurate observation on my part that someone who thinks a deck with 14 numbers, 4 colors, and the image of what could arguably be termed a powerful totem animal is safe from the possibility of being used for divination is taking a drag from their drawers?
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[personal profile] industrialchemy 2025-04-22 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Hi JMG. I wanted to run an affirmation by you.

The background: I recently realized that a humorous quote had taken up residence in my head as an unhelpful affirmation. (Douglas Adams: I love deadlines. I love the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.) I would guess I first learned that quote some 30 years ago.

Now that I have writing deadlines myself, I need to banish that sentiment. Deadlines currently stress me out, but in reality, they are a good thing because they give me focus and a stopping point.

My thought is to keep the first sentence the same and replace the second, that way any time it starts to play in my mind I can jump in and neutralize the problematic part (in addition to the regular daily recitation).

Proposed affirmation: “I love deadlines. I love the focus and structure they provide.”

Am I barking up the wrong tree by trying to co-opt the existing embedded thought? Do you have any suggestions to improve the affirmation?

In case I don’t make it back before midnight, thank you for your help!

(Anonymous) 2025-04-22 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Hi JMG,
What did the Golden Dawn seek to accomplish? My wife asked and I did not have a ready TL;DR answer like the mission statements we have today…
Thanks
Gerry

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