ecosophia | Open (More or Less) Post on Covid 36

The pandemic has been scrubbed from the front pages at this point and replaced by a different hysteria du jour, but the semi-open posts I've hosted here on the Covid-19 narrative, the inadequately tested experimental drugs for it, and the whole cascading mess surrounding them have continued to field a steady stream of comments, so I'm opening yet another space for discussion. The rules are the same as before:

1. If you plan on parroting the party line of the medical industry and its paid shills, please go away. This is a place for people to talk openly, honestly, and freely about their concerns that the party line in question is dangerously flawed and that actions being pushed by the medical industry et al. are causing injury and death. It is not a place for you to dismiss those concerns. Anyone who wants to hear the official story and the arguments in favor of it can find those on hundreds of thousands of websites.

2. If you plan on insisting that the current situation is the result of a deliberate plot by some villainous group of people or other, please go away. There are tens of thousands of websites currently rehashing various conspiracy theories about the Covid-19 outbreak and the vaccines. This is not one of them. What we're exploring is the likelihood that what's going on is the product of the same arrogance, incompetence, and corruption that the medical industry and its tame politicians have displayed so abundantly in recent decades. That possibility deserves a space of its own for discussion, and that's what we're doing here.

3. If you plan on using rent-a-troll derailing or disruption tactics, please go away. I'm quite familiar with the standard tactics used by troll farms to disrupt online forums, and am ready, willing, and able -- and in fact quite eager -- to ban people permanently for engaging in them here. Oh, and I also lurk on other Covid-19 vaccine skeptic blogs, so I'm likely to notice when the same posts are showing up on more than one venue.

4. If you don't believe in treating people with common courtesy, please go away. I have, and enforce, a strict courtesy policy on my blogs and online forums, and this is no exception. The sort of schoolyard bullying that takes place on so many other internet forums will get you deleted and banned here. No, I don't care if you disagree with that: my journal, my rules.

With that said, as the vaccinated keep catching Covid (and many of them never quite seem to get over it) while the rest of us are fine, the floor is open for discussion.

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I would not be surprised to see a civil war in the US. But I doubt it would look anything at all like the last one.

At this point, it seems inevitable. The sooner, the better in my opinion.

People won't get off the sofa and away from their screens to go start an actual shooting war. There is zero energy to actually do things in reality outdoors with other people. Civil war like the last one has a less than 5% probability

Now Civil War going on social media and internet in general, that is happening now.

Never underestimate the will of a determined 10-20%.

Some enemies you debate. Some enemies you defeat.

Unlike in the past, the tyrannical evil has infiltrated governments pretty much everywhere. The only way to prevent the dystopian nightmare we got a glimpse of during covid is to utterly destroy those responsible for it. There is no white horse coming to save us (though maybe Russia is giving us some hope) - we must do it ourselves as citizens.

Some people are really lazy...that's true. But a lot are completely worn out from things like working two jobs and still not sure if they're going to be able to pay for rent AND food AND gas this month. Someone who's been living that way for years doesn't have energy left over for fighting. Which may be what was intended all along. Exhausted people are easier to manipulate.

Exactly. If they are told "do X and it will be better" then they will do X. This was March 2020 when everyone was already exhausted from Trump and the election.

Which also increases the chances of the thing to start when things stop to a halt.

You assume that there is no way in this conditions, there is a meme on the internet things are 9 meals away

people going without food without 3 days go crazy

Civil war like the last one has a less than 5% probability

https://www.washington.edu/news/2021/04/09/divided-america-needs-new-more-viable-history-a-talk-with-dan-chirot/

My comment wasn't about civil war happening here. It was about how the government doubled down halfway through it. When things looked bleak rather than give up, they forced people to do things they didn't want to do.

Understood. But when people are forced to do things they don't want to do... sometimes cw happens.

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